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Didn't say a thing about his front. I also never had any claim on the quality of the red/white bull. I have no significant issue with the bull and told Becking/Polyock in Milwaukee that I think he could be very useful for some of the Shorthorn cattle that need some moderation. My singular...

No it's not semantics when you based your ramblings on politics and your assumption that Weikerts owned CF Focus. That is my whole issue. I could not give less of a crap if you like WEIK In Your Dreams. He is out with cows now and I will have an updated pic when he is done with fall breeding.

Nobody in this equation is from MD other than Warfield who owns Focus.

Your whole premise to start with was it was a political deal and we, or Weikert or Wallace bought a bull from Cates and that got him a favor. Or something. Which is just stupid and false. I do not care which animal you prefer. If I'm running my mouth by saying I'm not over the moon about the...

Holy friggin crap. Wallace bought the bull from us. He does not own CF Focus. Do you even understand why you can't just talk without facts?

So what we've learned here today is it's okay to basically say somebody is a cheater because they own a CF bull when Cates is judging. Even if you've never owned a CF animal in your entire life. Got it. That's a really cool thing to say. My opinion of that white bull is he is not very big and...

Uh yeah....owned by Ben Warfield. Like I said. Running your mouth about something you don't know about.

Neither I nor Weikerts have ever bought anything from Cates and we raised this bull. We know He's not the greatest thing to ever live but I'm not sure where you get off talking a lot of crap about something you know nothing about.

Also, are you implying that we beat this bull based on politics at WBE, Mark? I'd take offense to that to be honest.

That bull is frankly nothing special in my brutal opinion. Too small and ugly footed for me. Best bull in the barn for me is the Bloodstone x Ash Valley Kendra of Brouwers.

How did he not win KC???

Tallcool, you're not the only person who has said the Line steer is the best one they've seen. I know they were excited about him but didn't know if he'd be stout enough to win a major. Kinda disappointing when one that good doesn't even get a sniff.

If Indiana isn't too far for you, Shady Maple Farm has a hell of a set of Shorthorn bulls they'd sell at a good price.

We've got some Castlerock knocking around somewhere. Just sold a May Castlerock last week to Texas for just almost 5 figures and she is green as a gourd and not even roughed out. Hairiest calf we have had in the barn this year. I'm convinced those bulls can still work. Would be very interested...

We found a new French door style dolly Sullivan box for $600 on Facebook. If you keep an eye out, deals like that can be had. Took it to a couple of shows so far and it's the best money I've spent in years. We use one of our chest style boxes for a set up box and to keep randomness kinda...

Honestly the most economical thing to do is talk to breeders who raise the kind of cattle you want to raise and sell and buy embryos or flushes on their donors if they are willing to do that. Then have a good purebred Angus or Sim bull to turn in to cover the cows and make either quality...

I would much rather have a clone of Monopoly's mom. If I had a clone of HW's dam, I think I'd have to use a bull like Made 2 Order or maybe a PB Maine? Comfort Zone? Alias would makd almost all throwaways...his one in 20 success rate scares me and I have never seen a Bearcat that I thought was...

Oh I agree with you wholeheartedly about using these genetics up here. I worry that they are fairly coarse jointed and have some issues that manifest up high in general as a group. I think it's a product of them being fed hard. I haven't seen any of them in person so I won't pick on them hard...

The difference being that a pair is likely to win the show there not the case here. The female in my profile pic would have easily won the cow calf pair show at jr nationals and in all honesty would belong in the top 5 but it just wont happen so instead of getting her ready for a show she won't...

I'd take that third heifer in the drive today and make a run at KC with her. They're flat good and I've thought that for a decade. Steve French needs to get one of his donors down there to produce a bull for up here. I'd do my Ruby to him and rake in the money. Don't be fooled though, they...