Alias at Hawkeye

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This was sent to me by someone that was picking up some semen yesterday.
Said that both Hard Core & Ali were not available.
Rest of bulls looked pretty much like what Iowa had taken. Wave on Wave looked a lot better that the original. Some of the bulls were really small.
Here is a picture of Alias. Massive bull!

 

[cattlechick]

So Hardcore has quit producing semen to? have you seen deroucheys Hard Drive?

 

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not sure if Hard Core has quit producing semen. He had hurt his hoof a couple of weeks ago. He just wasn't out w/ the others. Didn't mention Hard Drive.

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I posted them all on the board a while back. Go to:http://www.steerplanet.com/bb/index.php?topic=800.0

He just decided to post them here rather than send to everyone that requested them.

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[frostback]

That photo makes me want to use him a lot more. Anyone know what types he workes best one. Little, big , thick, angular.

 

[knabe]

what's the bump, up from his hooks, about 3/4 the way forward of his pins.  seen this in a couple of other bulls.  a sore vertebrae, abcess, nothing?

 

[Chap]

i think the "bump" is the jump muscles being expressed.  Looks to me like the pic was taken right after he got up and he is stretching.  As far as what he works best on, Most of the big namers say to use him on cows that nothing else works on.  Had one guy tell me he works best on Recips.  The meaining of all this is that he will change a poor cow into a clubby producer, but alot like his sire, can take a really nice looking cow and make them straight and too wound up with muscle.  I plan on using him in the future on my F1 smokes since they are 0% clubby.

 

[Chap]

sorry, i said his sire, meant to say WMW

 

[chambero]

As with any of these types of bulls, you can have some structure problems.  I have a friend that had a wreck with Alias on Habanero/Angus cows. 

It was posted on another board a year ago or so that Alias had broken his leg.  Although I remember reading that that everyone thought that was confirmed, obviously it wasn't.  Another case of a picture is worth a thousand words.

He looks like a good stout Charolais cross bull.  He isn't that young anymore either.  Probably worth further consideration.

 

[shortyjock89]

From what I've seen, Alias can sire some dang nice calves.  The only thing is that they can be a little too straight off the front.  I think that if you get a good, loose fronted female, then he could be just the thing.  And the hair...it's wonderful.  If I didn't have Shorthorns, he would definately be on my list.

 

[afhm]

I know for a fact that Alias did break a leg while on lease in SD.  The owners at that time, and the guy who had possession at this time of the accident confirmed it ( I am good friends with several of them).  He was given a clean bill of health by a vet before his sale earlier this year.  i have seen many calves out of him and he needs to be bred to cattle that don't have a lot if any club calf influence in them.  Most of the time the cattle get sounder with each generation away from Who Made Who (Alias's maternal grandsire) you get, but he is the exception.

 

[chambero]

I wondered about the broken leg ever since I saw where Lautner's purchase him.  I figured they were just keeping him alive as best they could.  I'd love to hear the story behind the break - just how bad was it and how did they save him.  From that photo he looked just fine.

We had a bull break/dislocate an ankle at about 18-20 months of age after his first breeding season due to a stupid accident that was our fault.  Our vet casted it and he got ok - but he was never 100%.  We got a couple of more season of light use out of him before selling him last summer.  Alias looks like he is just fine.

 

[afhm]

I can't remember the specifics, but I'm pretty sure it was a front leg from stepping (as best they figured) in a prairie dog or badger hole. 

 

[DL]

Cattle have a remarkable abilty to create callus and heal broken bones - that said - the younger the animal the better; open fractures (thru the skin) are very bad; and you need to be able to immobilize the joint above and below the break. How old was he when he did it?

 

[afhm]

He would have been 2 1/2 to 3.

 

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Oh, those nasty badgers!
This was a jab at any Wisc people!!!

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[Thornberry]

Hey Now be carefull!  ;D  I will agree those things are nasty in the hay fields.  When chopping hay the wagon will find a hole under the  swath of hay.

 

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As a Buckeye, I have to take every opportunity I can!

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