anaplsmosis

[ty378]

so mI bought some eggs , and one of the calves tests dirty for a hint of anaplas, she would have picked it up most likely at the embryo place where she was born and weaned. who is at fault.And my buddy bought 6 eggs and he got 4 pregs and one died at birth and there was no contract signed who pays for the dead calf or egg?

 

[firesweepranch]

What was the agreement with the eggs your buddy bought? In most cases, when you buy three eggs, you are guaranteed one pregnancy if the work was done by a certified embryologist. In February, I bought 5 eggs with the guarantee of 2 pregnancies, so your buddy did pretty good if he got 4 pregnancies with 6 eggs. Most breeders guarantee a PREGNANCY, not a live calf! I would say he ended up ahead!
Not sure about the anaplasmosis. New territory there for me 

 

[3dfarms]

Like FireSweep said, you get one pregnancy guarantee with 3 embryos purchased, two if you buy 5.  Sounds like he had great conception rate.  It is unfortunate that he lost the calf, but that would be on him not as would be the egg cost unless something else was agreed on with the breeder BEFORE he purchased them.

We mess with horses some too.  With stud fees and embryos in horses, most of the time, your fee covers the breeding and guarantee a live foal.  If the foal is still born, or the mare doesn't conceive then the breeder will breed the stud to your mare again or get you a mare in foal to the stud. 

I wonder what it would be like if we did this in the cattle business....

Hate to hear you lost the first calf, good luck on the other 3.  Having 3 calves out of 6 embryos is pretty much the norm

 

[3dfarms]

Here is some info on anaplsmosis.  Source: http://cattletoday.info/anaplasmosis.htm

Anaplasmosis is a vector-borne, infectious blood disease in cattle caused by the rickesttsial parasites Anaplasma marginale and Anaplasma centrale. It occurs primarily in warm tropical and subtropical areas.  The disease is not contagious but is transmitted most commonly by ticks.  It can also be transmitted via contaminated needles, dehorning equipment, castrating knives, tattoo instruments, biting flies and mosquitoes.  The intracellular parasite destroys red blood cells.  It causes anemia, fever, weight loss, breathlessness, uncoordinated movements, abortion and death.  Diagnosis is based on clinical signs and the examination of blood under microscope for evidence of the parasite.

Affected cattle either die or begin a recovery within 4 days after the first signs of the disease.  The mortality rate increases with the age of the animal.  Unless infected cattle are detected during the early stages of the disease they should not be treated.  If an animal with advanced anaplasmosis is forced to move or becomes excited, it may die from lack of oxygen, also antibiotic treatments do little or nothing to affect the outcome of the disease when given during advanced stages of the disease.  Treatment consists of the administration of tetracycline.  A vaccine is available that helps to reduce the severity of the infection.  If you have any cattle with this disease it is very important to control ticks and follow strict sanitation procedures during vaccinations and other procedures to stop the spread of the disease to healthy animals.  Animals that recover from anaplasmosis are carriers and can spread the disease.

Chlortetracycline also known as CTC can reduce the risk of anaplasmosis. Chlortetracycline (CTC) consumed at the rate of 0.5 mg / lb. body weight daily during fly and tick season will help to prevent anaplasmosis. A consistent intake of the correct amount of mineral is crucial to a anaplasmosis prevention program. CTC is available in medicated feed, free choice salt-mineral mixes or medicated blocks. Be sure the product is labeled for anaplasmosis control and follow the label instructions exactly.

 

[ty378]

Hey thanks guys who have comented on the topic, but there was a 50% conception quarantee and it was a emryo place hired to ncalve the cow, I didnt recieve any kind of contract and I cannot get the heifer shipped accross the border to Canada if she has anaplasmosis. I think the guy losing the calf should have o do something and the anaplas had to come from his place

 

[lightnin4]

Anaplas is probably found everywhere.  We can prevent and control it in our cattle with Tetracyclines (CTC in feed or mineral to prevent and LA 200, etc. to treat early infections), but as long as its active in other species (i.e. deer) we won't eradicate it. 
Have you looked into treating the calf with LA 200 and then testing again.  I'm not familiar with the regs concerning crossing the border so I don't know if this is even a possibility.

 

[linnettejane]

just linked to a really good resource page by virginia tech in my blog...it has a good article about anaplasmosis in it...

here's a direct link to the article

http://www.pubs.ext.vt.edu/400/400-465/400-465.html

 

[Fence Rider]

Hey thanks guys who have comented on the topic, but there was a 50% conception quarantee and it was a emryo place hired to ncalve the cow, I didnt recieve any kind of contract and I cannot get the heifer shipped accross the border to Canada if she has anaplasmosis. I think the guy losing the calf should have o do something and the anaplas had to come from his place

If the "agreement" was a 50 % conception, then your buddy has no case, as he had 66% conception, a 66% born, and a 50% born alive. What part of that is the embryo sellers fault?
As much as I hate to say this, you really, really have to do your homework when selecting a recep herd. Do a thorough check on their herd heath, vaccination plan, feeding program.  You didn't get a contract, that is your fault. Welcome to the cattle world.

Learn from your mistakes, congratulate your buddy on his success, and move on.

 

[ty378]

Hey thanks guys who have comented on the topic, but there was a 50% conception quarantee and it was a emryo place hired to ncalve the cow, I didnt recieve any kind of contract and I cannot get the heifer shipped accross the border to Canada if she has anaplasmosis. I think the guy losing the calf should have o do something and the anaplas had to come from his place

If the "agreement" was a 50 % conception, then your buddy has no case, as he had 66% conception, a 66% born, and a 50% born alive. What part of that is the embryo sellers fault?
As much as I hate to say this, you really, really have to do your homework when selecting a recep herd. Do a thorough check on their herd heath, vaccination plan, feeding program.  You didn't get a contract, that is your fault. Welcome to the cattle world.

Learn from your mistakes, congratulate your buddy on his success, and move on.

That is what is wrong with the cattle world, everyone is just trying to screw everyone, you just wait kids are going to have to take over and its just going to get worse there is no loyalty anymore and people dont stand behind what they sell, the calves I got were as thin as crows, and wild as deer, and cost me 2700 just for 2 weaned calves that were weaned at 5 to 6 months old.

 

[chambero]

All of these deals overcomplicate things.  Things are much simpler if you take care of your own cattle.