OH Breeder
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For life of me, can't remeber what it means the day after insemination when a cow bleeds or has bloody vaginal discharge.
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OH Breeder
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Minimal amounts. It was a day or so out after breeding.
OH Breeder
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Found it myself.....took a bit of searching
Metestrus Bleeding
A bloody discharge, or metestrus bleeding, is often
observed on the vulva, tail and thighs of a cow 2 to
3 days following a normal estrous period.
While metestrus bleeding is not a direct sign of estrus,
it indicates that an estrous period occurred earlier.
The next estrous period may be expected to occur
in 18 to 20 days. This bloody discharge has no
relationship to whether a cow has conceived
during the previous estrous period.
Metestrus Bleeding
A bloody discharge, or metestrus bleeding, is often
observed on the vulva, tail and thighs of a cow 2 to
3 days following a normal estrous period.
While metestrus bleeding is not a direct sign of estrus,
it indicates that an estrous period occurred earlier.
The next estrous period may be expected to occur
in 18 to 20 days. This bloody discharge has no
relationship to whether a cow has conceived
during the previous estrous period.
i have seen that several times in heifers but it also could be worst case scenario that she was cut inside of her when getting ai'd. i highly doubt that happened but i have heard of it in ones that have gone berserk when getting bred. probably just the normal post heat stuff tho.
DTW
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I have seen this for the last 7 years on my cows with only having a few and watching them very close.
Cowboy also told me this a couple years ago.
If you see just a little dark blood in the mucos the cow ovulated and is bred. But if you see alot of bright red blood she ovulated but did not settle for what ever reason. And watching my cows i can tell you this is true. You will normally see the blood 36 to 48 hours after she was in heat.
Cowboy also told me this a couple years ago.
If you see just a little dark blood in the mucos the cow ovulated and is bred. But if you see alot of bright red blood she ovulated but did not settle for what ever reason. And watching my cows i can tell you this is true. You will normally see the blood 36 to 48 hours after she was in heat.
rtmcc
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I would agree with DTW. A friend of ours who breeds a lot of cows and helps with our breeding program said not to worry if you see a little blood two to three days after breeding. But every time a see a cow with a fair amount of blood she cycles back. If I just see small traces, I have attributed it to being from the AI'ing procedure. Those cows always seem to be bred. It's starting to make sense now ...
farmboy
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anyone know where i can see pictures of "dark blood" and "bright red blood" this is good information
oakbar
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Many of ours will show a little blood 2-3 days after their heat cycle. My understanding of this is that when the CL ruptures to release the egg a little may be released along with the egg. I've been told that the pH of the blood causes an unhealthy environment for the sperm so if there is a lot of blood the sperm will probably die and the cow won't settle. If there is just a little so it gets more diluted in the horn of the uterus, chances are some of the sperm will survive and make it through to fertilization. Unfortunately, we don't really get an indication of how much blood has been released until it is visible on the outside of the animal. There does seem to be fairly direct correlation between how much blood appears and the chances that the cow will recycle. Having said that, I don't think there is any finite way of determining what is "too much blood" because it only takes 1 very healthy, determined sperm to make it through and settle the cow. On the other hand, I've had cows show no blood that didn't settle either, so its not a foolproof indicator. In my limited experience, if you see a female with blood all up and down her tail 2-3 days after breeding, your chances of having a pregnancy are probably low and most likely you'll need to rebreed her. I'n sure Cowboy and some of the other people with a lot more experience than me can comment further.
Cowboy
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I was going to stay out of thisone, due to having talked about it several times in thepast, but I see there are still a few "Mis-Conceptions" on the subject -- hehehe!
First of all, just prior to coming into heat, your cow will engorge the uterin ling with very red cell rich blood, to get ready for pregnancy once ovulation takes place.
The "Follicle" on the ovary that contains the oocyte (Unfertile egg) will only rupture after the full curve of hormes are achieved -- they come in heat, ride for 12-15 hours, spend several hours inpost heat , and then ovulate after getting the signal from a released hormone called LH ( Signalled from the initial release of Gnrh)
There is VERY little blood in the wall of the follicle, very little.
Once the ovualtion occurs andwithin several hours -- the system will already know if she settled or not, a signal charge is given off by the newly fertilized egg.
If there is no signal detected from a fertile egg, the uterus will quickly reset itself and start to slough off the heavy blood supply it was carrying in the endometium. This is usually very bright red blood, and will be fairly profuse. Not all cows are seen bleeding -- due to the actuall transport of that blood -- it is just sometimes either absirbed in the vagina or diluted with urine at the time she would normally show, but is washed away during urination.
The bottom line is this -- the AVERAGEcow will bleed very slightly even when fertilized, and you may never see it. The "OPEN" cow will always bleed off completely to get ready for the next cycle. Again yo umay not see it, but if you do -- you will see her bleeding at about 48 hours form her initiall standing heat, or 30-36 hours after she is done standing. The blood will be bright red if fresh, but very dark if it was in the system for a while before showing up outside the vulva.
That is the process, and again, themore you see the lower the preg rate --
Ihae even gone so far two or three times over the years to re-shoot the cow if I see a great deal of blood, trying to save a week or 10 days. Based onat least 20 years worth of my own cows records, I have never had a cow be open with no bleed off, and have had 2 return that I had seen bleed heaviliy. The more blood you see, the lower chance of pregnancy!
The really dark blood would be most likely that blood that for some reason was not expelled for an extra day later than normal.
Guys, I hope that helps sum up this topic, it canand will DRIVE YOU nuts if you let it! hehe
(thumbsup)
Terry
PS -- Breed them well after all standing is done, you will not have to worry about bleed off nearly as much! My experiences, but you will get more bulls that way too.
First of all, just prior to coming into heat, your cow will engorge the uterin ling with very red cell rich blood, to get ready for pregnancy once ovulation takes place.
The "Follicle" on the ovary that contains the oocyte (Unfertile egg) will only rupture after the full curve of hormes are achieved -- they come in heat, ride for 12-15 hours, spend several hours inpost heat , and then ovulate after getting the signal from a released hormone called LH ( Signalled from the initial release of Gnrh)
There is VERY little blood in the wall of the follicle, very little.
Once the ovualtion occurs andwithin several hours -- the system will already know if she settled or not, a signal charge is given off by the newly fertilized egg.
If there is no signal detected from a fertile egg, the uterus will quickly reset itself and start to slough off the heavy blood supply it was carrying in the endometium. This is usually very bright red blood, and will be fairly profuse. Not all cows are seen bleeding -- due to the actuall transport of that blood -- it is just sometimes either absirbed in the vagina or diluted with urine at the time she would normally show, but is washed away during urination.
The bottom line is this -- the AVERAGEcow will bleed very slightly even when fertilized, and you may never see it. The "OPEN" cow will always bleed off completely to get ready for the next cycle. Again yo umay not see it, but if you do -- you will see her bleeding at about 48 hours form her initiall standing heat, or 30-36 hours after she is done standing. The blood will be bright red if fresh, but very dark if it was in the system for a while before showing up outside the vulva.
That is the process, and again, themore you see the lower the preg rate --
Ihae even gone so far two or three times over the years to re-shoot the cow if I see a great deal of blood, trying to save a week or 10 days. Based onat least 20 years worth of my own cows records, I have never had a cow be open with no bleed off, and have had 2 return that I had seen bleed heaviliy. The more blood you see, the lower chance of pregnancy!
The really dark blood would be most likely that blood that for some reason was not expelled for an extra day later than normal.
Guys, I hope that helps sum up this topic, it canand will DRIVE YOU nuts if you let it! hehe
(thumbsup)
Terry
PS -- Breed them well after all standing is done, you will not have to worry about bleed off nearly as much! My experiences, but you will get more bulls that way too.
farmboy
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this cow is stuck correct
Cowboy
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Sorry Zack -- 90% of cows like that would be OPEN, or more!
That is what I cal alot of blood.
If they have a small bleed off, it would not be so dark, and you would not see it all over the place. It would be only slightly visible in the late discharge she and all cwos will have. If this cow were mine, I'd be getting ready to rebreed her in three weeks. Of ccourse you COULD fall in that 10% 00 but I'd say she would be inthe 90% open bracket.
Now I supose you are going to write back and say -- Hey Cowboy -- I was fooling you -- this was LAST year and she calved yesterday!!! I'd say -- GREAT for you -- you are lucky!! hehehehe
Terry
That is what I cal alot of blood.
If they have a small bleed off, it would not be so dark, and you would not see it all over the place. It would be only slightly visible in the late discharge she and all cwos will have. If this cow were mine, I'd be getting ready to rebreed her in three weeks. Of ccourse you COULD fall in that 10% 00 but I'd say she would be inthe 90% open bracket.
Now I supose you are going to write back and say -- Hey Cowboy -- I was fooling you -- this was LAST year and she calved yesterday!!! I'd say -- GREAT for you -- you are lucky!! hehehehe
Terry
oakbar
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Thanks for the input, Cowboy!! The discussion about sexed semen looks like it could use your help as well!!
