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cebwtx

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I have been reading on some of the post about the calving problems associated with club bulls. I have an Angus heifer I am about to breed. I am thinking of crossing her with a simmi bull. I have not decided which one yet. I have had a previous post asking suggestions. At this point with everything else I have read I am wondering if I should stick with a smaller breed for her first calf like Angus. I had rather have a calf that will survive the first go around and then go with simmi influence if that would likely be a safer route. I have even thought about possibly crossing her with a Hereford sire. As alwaysany suggestions are welcome. I had rather be safe than sorry.
 

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I don't think I would go with a purebred Simmental bull, but I think a SimAngus bull would be a safer bet. Although a sure fire purebred Simmental calving ease bull is Hook's Shear Force. I think he would work on an Angus heifer.
 

the angus111

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northern improvement,final answer, bismarck,trademark is considered calving ease. rusty
 

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You would not have troubles with ACC1 Hustler. We used him last year and all came unassisted. Another bull to look @ would be Grandmaster. You would need to call the owners of him and ask how many heifers they have calved carrying his service. His BW EPD I believe is -7.7lbs. You can use Simi, but do your research. JMO. Brent

Another proven CE Simi bull would be SS Goldmine.
 

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CJC said:
How about IN DEW TIME

I calved out heifers to In Dew Time in September and he is definitely a CE sire, but I don't think that he is good enough to be used on Angus heifers. Most of the calves came in the 70-80 lb range with a few in the 80-90s.
 

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I think you could use Ranchhand on that Angus heifer.  His calves are small at birth and some are pretty good.  Also, Shear Force as previously mentioned and Pacesetter.  You may be okay with In Dew Time if you use the sexed semen to get a heifer.
 

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Not sure how typical it is, but I had a nice and small Dream-On out of a pure-bred Simmy last year.
 

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Copyright and Northern Improvement are good heifer bulls. Main thing is getting that first calf on the ground alive.
 

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You can get the In Dew Time sexed semen from Genex.  They have offered it for several years and I see it in their new catalog I received today.  You will love the In Dew Time females.
 

cowboybecoachin

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Northern Improvement will in all likelyhood give you a live and useable calf. We use him and Ali 2 on heifers, depending on our goals. Good Luck, Mike Christian, Christian Cattle Co., Hico Tx.
 

randiliana

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Just remember that whenever you cross one breed with another your get hybrid vigor. This is why crossbred calves weigh more at weaning (in general) than purebred calves. It affects everything from growth to longevity. As far as hybrid vigor, it doesn't start at birth, this can make heavier BW's too. Now having said that, you can still safely crossbreed heifers we do it all the time. Just pick the right sire for your heifer. Simmental isn't considered a calving ease breed, but I am certain that there are bulls out there that would be safe to use on an Angus heifer.

First off, what was HER BW? She's at least half the equation, after all her genetics are going to affect the calf and so is the enviroment she is living in for the 9 months she is CARRYING the calf. If she's a higher BW, you will want to consider going with a real proven calving ease sire. As far as environment, well, that is one thing you can't do much about. But have here in good BCS going into her last trimester. That is the worst time to try and put weight onto a heifer. And once shes into it feed her properly. She doesn't need a lot of grain, you more or less just want her to maintain herself and continue growing the calf. Things can go wrong no matter how good you try to plan them. But make the best plans you can and hope for the best!! If you do that everything will probably work out the way you want it to.
 
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