Cool Video of Selection of Champion Steer at 2008 Iowa State Fair!

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LazyGLowlines

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Great video. I know judges have asked about sires here, so didn't think it was unusual for the judge to ask about the one steer's sire.
 

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Really cool, I wish you could watch a clip of every judge interviewed like that, sure would make judge selection easier.
Koodos to Iowa Public Television, you can't even imagine how hard it is to get the media to come out for something positive happening at the fair.
 

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I found some other cool cattle related videos!  There saved under favorites on my YouTube page!  A cattle drive in Wyoming,  A ranch Branding, Selection of Champion National Junior Angus,Iowa State Hog Calling Contest and an AI video with dairy cows and no chute(Unreal)

http://www.youtube.com/romshekcattle

Tony
 

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That's a really neat video.  I wonder just how many times that "slap" at the end has gone bad for him....  it'd be my luck that I'd do it & get punted 10 feet sideways. 
 

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the crowd is impressive.

i dare say the crowd at the CA state fair, the western bonanza, our local show, the county fair might make up 25% of the crowd there.

that crowd is bigger than jr. college sports out here.
 

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knabe said:
the crowd is impressive.

i dare say the crowd at the CA state fair, the western bonanza, our local show, the county fair might make up 25% of the crowd there.

that crowd is bigger than jr. college sports out here.

That's how it is here in IL too, LOTS of people there to see Grand Steer, there's really no room for any more people.  It's a sight to see, and there are tons more people there than there would be for Jr. College sports here too.
 

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This has been bugging me since watching John Edwards judge steers San Antonio and put ease of movement near the top of his list of requirements.  That judge's comments at the beginning brought it up again...

Can somebody explain to me why the ability of cattle do do well on pasture has any relevance to a market steer show? 

The steers are done feeding.  Theoretically, they're being judged as if they're going to have their heads chopped off when they exit the ring.  Unless he's judging a contest that includes feed efficiency, why would he consider it as a factor in judging the steers?

A heifer show, yes, completely different deal.  However, the only walking a terminal steer has left to do is into the slaughterhouse.
 

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JSchroeder said:
Can somebody explain to me why the ability of cattle do do well on pasture has any relevance to a market steer show? 

if a steer is lame, and we don't know for how long, there may be issues of what it took to get to the point of being fat.  was he older cause he ate less.  all else being equal, i would pick a sounder steer as well.  you could infer stress hurts quality and costs.

i'll accept it.

i had a direct draft pick steer that for the last month he was alive was slow getting around as he was stiff in his shoulder and shorter striding on one side so much he had to walk in sort of a counter circle to get where he was going.
 

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JSchroeder said:
This has been bugging me since watching John Edwards judge steers San Antonio and put ease of movement near the top of his list of requirements.  That judge's comments at the beginning brought it up again...

Can somebody explain to me why the ability of cattle do do well on pasture has any relevance to a market steer show? 

The steers are done feeding.  Theoretically, they're being judged as if they're going to have their heads chopped off when they exit the ring.  Unless he's judging a contest that includes feed efficiency, why would he consider it as a factor in judging the steers?

A heifer show, yes, completely different deal.  However, the only walking a terminal steer has left to do is into the slaughterhouse.

We talk about structure in steer shows, because it is important to productivity and it is a steer "show"  If all we are concerned about is the hanging carcass, we can simply bring them to a central location for slaughter and cut their heads off and rank the beef.  I know this is the end product and ultimately the most important part of a market show, but since it is a show we evaluate all portions of the animal's phenotype.  We expect  balance, muscle, finish,  and structure.  is a pretty front and square hip important to the carcass?  Rarely, i would guess, and some of the criteria are antagonistic to actual performance factors (excessive hair and tight necked, long fronted animals for example) 
 

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JSchroeder said:
Good points but he never talks about meat quality due to stress.  He mentions feed efficiency and performing on pasture.

to be an "ideal" steer, he would have to perform on his momma and on pasture, if we throw feed efficiency in the pic too.

since no one can really measure feed efficiency on pasture, it's just a guess going through one's own cattle what those "heavy" calves on momma look like.

i'll agree with the performance on pasture and would like that to be a separate class of grass fats, where the industry has the most headroom for improvement.
 

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That was a nice video.I can't explain how he talked about pasture and feed effecientcy,but his name is JARY DOUGLAS and he is a Limosine breeder down in Georgia. He was head of the Ag department at the college in MIAMI, OKLA. for years.He is without a doubt one of the best "breeder" judges ever. That's hard to believe cause most breeders and colledge professors don't agree on most anything.He was both.He is the reason most people like Randy Daniels as a judge.JARY taught him.
 

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Iowa Public Television does a great job covering the Iowa state fair, not only the livestock shows but all activities that go on during the fair. The crowd there sure is a site to see! It also helped that the pavilion was air conditioned this past year  (clapping)
 

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JSchroeder said:
This has been bugging me since watching John Edwards judge steers San Antonio and put ease of movement near the top of his list of requirements.  That judge's comments at the beginning brought it up again...

Can somebody explain to me why the ability of cattle do do well on pasture has any relevance to a market steer show? 

The steers are done feeding.  Theoretically, they're being judged as if they're going to have their heads chopped off when they exit the ring.  Unless he's judging a contest that includes feed efficiency, why would he consider it as a factor in judging the steers?

A heifer show, yes, completely different deal.  However, the only walking a terminal steer has left to do is into the slaughterhouse.
These are SHOW STEERS, they are the elite,the best of the best(supposedly)so i would like to think they should be able to walk,and have decent structure.
 

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I love my show cattle, especially them steers, I can spend hours just looking at them, they just have that 'wow' factor, however, when it comes time to slap something on the grill, I head out to the pasture for lets face it, ugly looking guy, and Though they have to much shoulder, slumping hind. they taste a whole lot better. When it comes to a lot of the show cattle, the tenderness gene seems to fall show compared to 'the look' and why not, when you have a shot at that great one who can sell upwards of 20-30k or more, that’s much more than some beef . Lets just not forget, in the end, showing cattle is no more than a beauty contest.
 

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Pay attention around the 2 minute mark and you can find out the name of the calf in jbh's avatar, from the fine young lady at the halter. What is it with that gene pool and television exposure? I can't imagine the knot in the tummy of Dad at that point during the drive.
 

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Diamond said:
When it comes to a lot of the show cattle, the tenderness gene seems to fall show compared to 'the look' and why not.

if any of the genes are real, that, isn't the case.
 
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