I think the best two things about Detour are his CE and calf vigor as stated above. We ran a Detour x Webr MS Dolly 2S bull on our virgins heifers this year and have a full sib to him that we will either sell or run with this year's virgin heifers. We ran a Six Mile Winchester x Webr MS Dolly 2S for clean up on a group of cows this year which we did use on heifers when he was a yearling and that was not a good spring calving out the heifers, but I did breed the cow back to Winchester this season and would be happy to see another bull calf this spring.