SLC Sooner 101M Heifer

[MI Dream Cattle]

What has worked the best breeding Sooner daughters to?

 

[knabe]

something with milk?

 

[Cattledog]

something with milk?

Knabe, I've heard you talk about Sooner daughters lack-o-milk in previous posts.  I walked a pasture with a guy who was complaning that he had a Sooner daughter out of a cow that milked like a holstein.  Needless to say, she didn't inherit her mother's milking ability. 

 

[knabe]

disclaimer.  i have a sooner daughter out of an ali x angus.

however one should be aware of what they are dealing with in pedigree.  i am not saying there aren't exceptions, only that there are too many no milk animals in sooner's pedigree compared to most.  it may or may not be a good thing or bad, just saying by pedigree, there is some milk weakness.

http://maine-anjou.org/pagedisplay.php?id=8181

http://maine-anjou.org/pagedisplay.php?id=15930

http://maine-anjou.org/pagedisplay.php?id=289774

http://maine-anjou.org/pagedisplay.php?id=328444

http://maine-anjou.org/pagedisplay.php?id=289775

http://maine-anjou.org/pagedisplay.php?id=36223

on the other hand, the cow of whom as far as i know there is not one single picture, or one that is allowed in print.

http://maine-anjou.org/pagedisplay.php?id=172596  who has some unknown animals.

from what i remember, that cow was the first maine dmcc purchased and never "missed" with her.

if people were a little more creative, they could attempt to make things like this. or perhaps she was made with what was invisible.

to me, that cow was perhaps lucky to be made from PHA carrier lines and was free.  i think people should try it again, but not from crossed up composites, but again through dalton crossed on bysantin, but hey, that's probably too much work.  add in paramount a little black gold and midas and you have draft pick.  to me, the cow was a way to get the carrier look without being a carrier, ie spring of rib in females, but also some stagginess probably with being a carrier.  my thought is they can be decoupled.  again, too much work for anyone.  you would need about 5 years to do it with a whole bunch of culls, which means even less people will try it.

but hey, it's all about proving sooner has plenty of milk and throws it consistently right?

 

[MI Dream Cattle]

Thanks for the feedback. It sounds like you have done your research but, I still don't have an answer.  Who would you breed her to?

 

[knabe]

if she's a heifer, breed her to a known calving ease sire, especially if there's any bw on the other side.  in my experience, the bw bulls can't seem to underpower the cow.

i'm going to flush mine to some fullbloods, fr magic 179x and black gold.  i'm always scared black gold will make her too straight though, but i'm going to do it.