2020 Denver Bulls

[RyanChandler]

It’s all relevant as the underlying theme in any post about bulls is about potentially buying/using them.

The more transparency the industry has, the better off everyone will be— except of course for the salesmen.

 

[SEA]

Amen-I also wish we had all those cool videos to view like Cattle.com used to create  O0

Me too, Kanabe!  I certainly enjoyed them.

I would like to hear some thoughts on NWSS Display Clubby Bulls 2020 also.  I have heard there were actually 4-5 new bulls that looked better than any bulls in the past 3-5 years.  Not just “Little Puds” and nothing hair and bone?    However, even though my reports came from a reputable source, they are about “Third Hand” and very limited. Wade Rogers is said to have two.  One of the Laughtner’s had had one that may have been raised by Sullivan’s?  I also heard there was a bull there from Bobby May.  No names were given.  Sorry, not much relevance here.  That is why I was hesitant to post.  I am in hopes this may provoke response and further dialogue on these bulls. 

Hoping other cattlemen might see these same bulls on display at other venues or at the bull studs soon.

 

[cowdoc1973]

How was Jungels sale?  What did Lot 16 (Times Square) bring and where did he go? Will there be semen offered to the general public on him.

 

[Medium Rare]

Watched from home, but I thought the sale went well and it sounded like bulls went in all directions. I believe Times Square brought $50k.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Anybody seen times square? At least from the picture he doesnt look very wide made Anything in that price range will need to walk the walk with the baby talk O0

 

[RyanChandler]

Bull sold to guy named Rusty Thompson from Missouri and ST Genetics in Texas.  I hear both conventional and sexed will be available soon.

 

[Medium Rare]

Bull sold to guy named Rusty Thompson from Missouri and ST Genetics in Texas.  I hear both conventional and sexed will be available soon.

I think you mean Rusty Merideth, and his brother, at Merideth Land and Cattle. They've collected quite a few well bred animals over the last few years.


Corrected spelling on the last name.

 

[RyanChandler]

Yes.  Thank you for correcting that. I combined two different names on the sale sheet. I had honestly never heard of em but with that kind of cash they’re bound to acquire some good ones. 
I haven’t seen Times Square in person- I’m hoping he’s only proportionally wide as opposed to being very wide.  The disproportion is the culprit of all the disfunction in the clubby cattle.

 

[Shorthorn-Fed]

Bull sold to guy named Rusty Thompson from Missouri and ST Genetics in Texas.  I hear both conventional and sexed will be available soon.

When I read this  was thinkin I must have went wild and paid 50k for a bull sight unseen !

Russ

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Base width is not the culprit of-Purebred-Simms, Maines, Charolais, Limmis, Angus . Herefords even Beefmasters- Theyve cleared up a lot of Ills in those and other cattle-and the number of people who use them across countless types of cows is huge I go by what the commercial guys want them to look like too not the numbers chasing bean counters whos bulls on self feeders wiegh 1080 at a year with incredible EPDS-The commercial  cattle are thick, calve unassisted or dont make it-and frankly are much better doing cattle for the most part And I sold Shorthorn bulls in VA starting in the early 90s-In the era of the hardoing embarrassing Dairy Rats and Cow Killers that were the norm for the breed If you think they have to be clubby to have base width-then you may end up with a very limited market O0

 

[BroncoFan]

Man, I sure wish this post was about 2020 Denver Bulls! 

If I was to just read these last couple pages of posts, I would think this thread was mostly about the Shorthorn breed.

 

[RyanChandler]

Would makes since given the largest following on this page are by shorthorn breeders or at least those than have an affinity for the Shorthorn breed. 

Equal good explanation would be that Times Square was likely the highest selling bull there at 50k so it would be reasonable for him to dominate this post.

 

[shortybreeder]

Man, I sure wish this post was about 2020 Denver Bulls! 

If I was to just read these last couple pages of posts, I would think this thread was mostly about the Shorthorn breed.

You are welcome to contribute some value rather than just complaining about the discussion of shorthorn bulls which were in Denver.

I forgot about Mark's Times Square question from earlier, but I did see him--i just wasn't able to post when I initially saw the question, so here's my brief opinion on him:
They had him placed amongst all the other red bulls they brought out, and it wasn't hard to pick him out. He just stood out, from his muscle going deep down his rear quarter, to his width over the top. Is he the next big thing? Idk, but from my perspective I didn't find a hole in him. I'm not a show guy though.. His full brother Wall Street hasn't particularly impressed me, and neither have his calves, so personally I'm gonna let someone else trial him first.
Just my 2 cents.

 

[BroncoFan]

Man, I sure wish this post was about 2020 Denver Bulls! 

If I was to just read these last couple pages of posts, I would think this thread was mostly about the Shorthorn breed.

You are welcome to contribute some value rather than just complaining about the discussion of shorthorn bulls which were in Denver.

I forgot about Mark's Times Square question from earlier, but I did see him--i just wasn't able to post when I initially saw the question, so here's my brief opinion on him:
They had him placed amongst all the other red bulls they brought out, and it wasn't hard to pick him out. He just stood out, from his muscle going deep down his rear quarter, to his width over the top. Is he the next big thing? Idk, but from my perspective I didn't find a hole in him. I'm not a show guy though.. His full brother Wall Street hasn't particularly impressed me, and neither have his calves, so personally I'm gonna let someone else trial him first.
Just my 2 cents.

I can’t contribute because I couldn’t make it to Denver this year. I was hoping to find out everyone’s thoughts on the clubby or Maine display bulls. I guess this is why I stopped checking this forum on a regular basis.

 

[Weezie]

Second hand here but I talked to some people and the overwhelming sentiment was that nothing really blew them away. That said Chosen 1 seemed to get some acclaim and Griswolds had a couple that were pretty cool. This was the year for the HIA sons so it should be interesting to see which ones click, if any.

 

[BroncoFan]

Second hand here but I talked to some people and the overwhelming sentiment was that nothing really blew them away. That said Chosen 1 seemed to get some acclaim and Griswolds had a couple that were pretty cool. This was the year for the HIA sons so it should be interesting to see which ones click, if any.

Thank you!

 

[nkotb]

I was there and feel like that is an apt statement.  Overall, I thought the clubby bulls were underwhelming, a lot of puds for sure.  I thought Chosen 1 was cool, and Wade had a couple that would work, but nothing that just really set anyone apart.  There was some solid purebred/maternal bulls, but I cannot remember names.  It'd sure be nice to see one of the clubbier deals that had a little frame and grow to add.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Thats starting to happen in the shows-people Like Jim Compton, Griener, Gargan,  and a growing number of  others are producing them-Needed change JMO O0

 

[RyanChandler]

I’m sure breeding the moderate maternal types to framey club calf bulls will only work out for the best

 

[BroncoFan]

I think the clubby bulls are getting too moderate and are a dime a dozen. I guess time will tell which bulls will produce champions and which will never stay around.