only one I would think of trying is Mercedes Benz, just because of the calves look good. Tiny tim is exaclty that Tiny and I 80 is not much bigger. Head over to Hawykeye and check them out before you breed. Smoking Joe is prob one of the better most consistant Ali sons out there but I am no fan of Ali himself. For maines I still like most the witch Dr calves or calves out of his sons, they are not very easy calving though. Also Lifeline would be in my top 5 as well. As for some of the newer bulls Open Bar, Stands alone 37% maine, and Hard Core would be worth trying. I like the looks and pedigree on GVC MAVERICK 05U. I have never seen any calves or the bull myself though.