Advice needed (shorthorn ET and the ASA)

[OKshorthorn]

Ok, so here is my problem. 3 years ago we decided to flush an older cow that we had, she was an outcross to the popular stuff right now and we really liked her calves, figured we would give it a shot. We flushed her 3 times, but she died unexpectedly at the vets facility. We put the first of the embryos in last year and got a bull calf. I went to register him today and a message pops up saying Embryo dam must have blood on file. Embryo dam must have TH of file. Embryo dam must have PHA on file. Embryo dam must have PHATH lab ID on file. Now I realize that it is obviously my mistake for not knowing that prior to flushing her and not getting her tested, but, what do I do now? I believe she should be clean of TH and PHA because of who she is out of, but I have no way of producing blood, seeing how she is dead.

 

[firesweepranch]

First, let me say, I LOVE my ASA (Simmental). Every time I call I get a live body and transferred to the appropriate person to get my problem resolved. Usually DNA stuff.

Now, with our ASA, Correction:
DONOR DAMS - In order for a dam to qualify for ASA’s donor program, she must have DNA markers on file with us before she is flushed. This requirement applies to Simmental donor dams, as well as donor dams of other breeds. Upon testing, the dam will be confirmed to any parents whose DNA is on file. If any embryo calves are reported out of a dam that has not completed DNA testing, the owner will be charged a penalty fee of $180.
 :-\ sorry. No real solutions, just sympathy!!! Come over to our breed  

 

[loveRedcows]

I'm sorry you're having so much difficulty with the ASA office...but I feel obligated to say that my experience with them has always been fruitful.  The best method of communication for me has been via email rather than telephone.  I've always received a reply (maybe not right away but in a timely manner).

Regarding the tests required for a donor dam - are there possibly any full sibs to your cow available to test (for DNA parentage)?  Re the genetic defect tests - it may be possible to test her flushed progeny for their TH/PHA status & be able to register them.  I don't know, but in a special circumstance such as yours the association may be able to negotiate on that point. 

Just suggestions from this end -- I'm sure there are a lot more folks out there with more knowledge in dealing with ASA.  GOOD LUCK.

 

[OH Breeder]

Direct from rules for registration death of donor dam.




Death: It is recommended that the owner of any donor dam shall notify the ASA of the dam’s death within thirty (30) days. Resulting offspring calved after the death of a cow shall be eligible for registration under the same conditions and provisions governing the eligibility of embryo calves. In the event the donor dam had not been DNA genotyped and/or genetic defect tested prior to death, ASA shall make a determination as to the appropriateness of issuing an E.T. certificate on a case-by- case basis. If a donor dam has died and was born after January 1, 2006, the required DNA genotype and genetic defect test results must be on file in order to issue E.T. certificates.

 

[OKshorthorn]

Thanks for the replies. She was a 96 model, hopefully someone will call me back and I can talk with them.