I agree mostly with the Ali posts. Almost to a tee,the truly great Ali steers and heifers are from unmistakeable outstanding cows, that have proven themselves as donors. There are a few exceptions of course. Dirty Harry has had his ups and downs as well. He either clicks or he doesn't. We have had good luck with him at limited use. Good friends have used him on some really good cows,and he gets 1 out of every 10 cows with a saleable calf for showing.School is still out on Smokin Joe. Hard Core works pretty good for some,not others. I like Bremer's Kassanova bull. New Level is supposed be good,heck they all are a crap shoot.