all opinions please..

[reno1014]

what do you think of this calf? What would you think he is worth?

 

[knabe]

here's a resize

 

[reno1014]

Thanks for the re-size.

 

[red]

thanks Knabe! I was slow on the draw!

Red

 

[knabe]

i don't know what he's worth, but he kinda looks like two calves put together.  from his belly button forward he looks good to me.  from his navel back, he looks short hipped compared to the rest of his body and he's too straight in his femur bone on down, making him higher in the rear which they are anyway when they are young.  this may manifest itself in how he walks on his front and rear, and i would say he might seem a little discombobulated when walking.  i would like to see more length from the end of his femur bone to his behind.  just personal preference, but i like this bone to be a little longer than what is usually found.  i think of a 400 meter runner femur bone as opposed to a sprinter bone.  this bone helps length of stride.  my track coach once told me run with your knees, not your feet and your stride will be longer.  i guess a guy (or gal) could still be short hipped but long femured.

 

[Jill]

I would think he is worth no more than market price.

 

[showsteerdlux]

I would think he is worth no more than market price.

Id have to disagree with that. he may not be the best calf ever but I do see alot of positive in him. He has good muscle expression in his rear quarter, I would like to give him some more flex in those back wheels but he does carry a good amount of bone. Also all 4 feet are pointing straight ahead.IMO this is very imporatnt and it appears he should remain sound throughout his career of showing. he may be a bit bold shouldered but he does have a good long neck and is also long spined witha thick top that is striaght and flat.
Overall he looks to be a pretty good steer. Try to hair him up and maybe that will hide some of his faults. Hope he does good for you and most importantly that you learn and have fun fooling with him.

 

[minimoo38]

i don't know what he's worth, but he kinda looks like two calves put together.  from his belly button forward he looks good to me.  from his navel back, he looks short hipped compared to the rest of his body and he's too straight in his femur bone on down, making him higher in the rear which they are anyway when they are young.  this may manifest itself in how he walks on his front and rear, and i would say he might seem a little discombobulated when walking.  i would like to see more length from the end of his femur bone to his behind.  just personal preference, but i like this bone to be a little longer than what is usually found.  i think of a 400 meter runner femur bone as opposed to a sprinter bone.  this bone helps length of stride.  my track coach once told me run with your knees, not your feet and your stride will be longer.  i guess a guy (or gal) could still be short hipped but long femured.

i agree, but he is standing a little stretched, so when he gets his feet under him, it should change his appearance. also the ground looks a little rough.

 

[shorthorns r us]

if he is broke he is worth a grand

 

[AAOK]

if he is broke he is worth a grand

I'll up that to $1500, around here at least.  He is better than our average which is usually about a grand.

 

[shorthorns r us]

i'll rephrase mine.  any broke beef calf is worth a grand.

 

[chambero]

Where's the calf at?  If he is up north he doesn't have much hair at all, if he's in the south he might have more next fall when taken care of.  He's kind of green (which doesn't bother me a bit) and one like that without tons of hair just doesn't look as good as a fat little furball at this time of the year.  However, most of those fat furballs don't amount to much down the road whereas this calf could grow into something.

In the photo, he doesn't strike me as being obviously too straight.  It all just depends on how he moves.

I'm kind of with AAOK on this, I think he qualifies as the average crossbred steer that gets shown down here.  If he's taken well care of and feeds well, the kind of calf that can make a sale.  I'd price him at $1500 (but we don't sell anything for less than that).  If they are worth showing, they are worth double market price in our opinion.

 

[Jill]

I'll rephrase my answer, that would depend on what area your in, average steers don't bring 1500 around here, you may get 1000 if you had a good track record.

 

[reno1014]

We bought this calf at a sale in the Panhandle of Texas.  Most of the calves there were ranging in the 7500.00 all the way to
24000.00.  I had never been to a club calf sale and was suprised by the cost.  This particular calf cost 1000.00 and
he is not broke, but is pretty docile.  He is better than some of the 7500.00 calves that went through but he was at the end of
the steer part of the sale and the big money had pretty much left.  I just wanted to know what yall thought.  I guess I
was pretty much on the right track for dollar amount.  Some of the calves around here sale for LARGE dollars, but we try
to keep our stock show projects at a very reasonable cost.  I agree with the person whom said a halter broke steer is worth
more...that is a chore! 

 

[chambero]

A lot of calves sold in Texas really do bring that much money, but you can never tell for certain in an auction.  All kinds of deals are cut before sales and a lot is done just for publicity.

A lot of very good calves are bought at the backend of sales.  For example, we consigned a couple of calves to one of the big sales a few years ago.  They had already started slipping hair and weren't as fat as some of the other calves there.  They were run through toward the back end and didn't bring the $2500 we had them floored at.  One went on to win Reserve Charolais steer at Houston.  There are probably more examples like that than we can imagine.

If your calf is structurally sound, you did just fine. 

 

[OH Breeder]

I think you got a pretty good deal. He looks as though he is going to be a pretty steer versus a power house. He is a little green. Give him time. What are the genetics behind him? That also can tell us a bit. Later maturing etc.

 

[reno1014]

This steers sire is Heatwave and his Dam Info is Full Flush- F22 Whatever that means.  If yall know fill me in. 
I havent learned all the genetic stuff yet.

 

[Jill]

Wow, that is suprising, I wouldn't have guessed that by the picture.

 

[reno1014]

He has an awful clip job...probably because they had so many to do...and they werent broke.
Also this picture was taken after a dirt storm and we had only had him for three days.  My son couldnt get him
up to the regular tie so he tied him to the fence.  Jill, do you know the parentage of this calf?  Maybe you
could elaborate?

 

[shorthorns r us]

Kroupa F22?