We haven't used him but I have seen progeny from Champion Hill's sale catalogs. Of course seeing them in person is better. The pics of his progeny looked pretty good. His EPD's aren't to shabby either. You may want to give them a call or email them. I emailed them about him awhile back and they are very nice to deal with. http://www.championhillangus.com/home.html They have a sale coming up in April. Not sure where you are located but you could see some in person. I think Mrs. Hill said that his calves were coming about 80-85lbs if I remember correctly. She is very nice lady. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful than that. <beer>