Are Illegals safe for America?

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Your thoughts! (pop) illeagles

 

[cotullaguy]

Illegals are not safe if you care about the rule of law and national sovereignty. Most are not criminals and are only here to work for the families.  They are mostly good people.  The Mexican government supports them coming here as it helps their economy back in Mexico as most send almost all of their money back to Mexico.

The dollar is being destroyed by design.  The global banking cartel wants us to join a North American Union and use a fiat currency called the Amero.  Most of you know now that the US dollar is not backed by gold and has not been since 1973. 

The borders are open for a reason.  It is because the politicians are being bought and/or blackmailed by the global banking cartel.  This cartel is real and much much worse than any mafia has ever been.  All mass media is owned and controlled by them.  Thus, you can assume that what they want is on the tube each night.  Question everything you hear on the news as it will always be slanted to help these people.

 

[muleman]

well said.

 

[knabe]

good summary cotullaguy.  couldn't agree more.  they are trying to convince us the 1st and 2nd amendment are not necessary.

 

[The Show]

They can keep 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 if I can keep 2

 

[knabe]

They can keep 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 if I can keep 2

you can't keep 2.  they've been attacking that one forever. it will probably be the first to fall.  after that, the rest are meaningless.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Well I dont know whats going on in your town-but Herndon Va-( my home town that was once gravel roads and stills in the woods)became the largest depository of illegals amd ms13 etc gangmembers in the us-by certain statistics. There was a seven eleven there that sometimes had 2-300 of them in the parking lot to do day work. Ins would chase them once in a while but back they came-now-there may be 5 or ten. Construction died-the realestate  economy that like it or not was built on thier backs is gone (as it should be ) AND SO ARE THEY. All we have to do is to become a cyber entity with no building or agriculture-and they will be starved out. Hate to say it-kids dont go to college etc to become laborers-and niether do most black people-so-whos gonna do the work? Im not on thier side-and the next ground war will probably be our troops taking out the drug cartel,who are making huge inroads into illicit control of our country and would have to be connected to a shdow banking entity that breeches many international borders. And I think Knabe and others are right on target about the tendencies of the latest govt-but believe it or not-they are gonna come down HARD on the (banking cartel) and in a backward way are  percieved as socialistic tendencies etc-they are actually trying to preserve some of our freedom-from the aforementioned,and I wont get into which political party members are doing everything they can to support the aforementioned because it is both. O0

 

[knabe]

both. O0

true. 

the most successful socialists, communists, facists, whatever you want to call them, understood clearly they only needed about 25% of the economy to have some semblance of capitalism to be able to have currency exchange on the world market.  it's finally making it's way to the US. most people don't understand the most successful socialists in the US were FDR, johnson and nixon, followed by bush clan, clinton, and the one who will top them all, obama.  he's already stated his vision of being fdr on steroids.  socialists think they can compel people to excel, but have also realized they only need to pick the best at it and subjugate the rest.  most people are to ignorant to be aware of this and keep voting D or R thinking they are making an impact as they argue over abortion while the shrink capitalism as slow as necessary.

 

[The Show]

They can keep 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 if I can keep 2

you can't keep 2.  they've been attacking that one forever. it will probably be the first to fall.  after that, the rest are meaningless.

Unfortunately :'(

Speaking of socialism though, I got this email a while back:
An economics teacher at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had once failed an entire class.
That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.
The professor then said, "Ok we will have an experiment in this class on Obama's plan".
All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A...
After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B..
The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy.
As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.
The second test average was a D!
No one was happy.
When the third test rolled around, the average was an F.
The scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.
All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.
 

 

[cotullaguy]

Socialism will never happen here in the USA by policies by a US President.  He DOES NOT CALL THE SHOTS.  Understand this part. He is a puppet for the global banking elite.  He does not work for you and me.

If you are truly interested in what is really going on, take 2 hours out of your time and watch this film:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTrJQpgf6sE

 

[knabe]

Socialism will never happen here in the USA by policies by a US President.  He DOES NOT CALL THE SHOTS.  Understand this part. He is a puppet for the global banking elite.  He does not work for you and me.

he's a figurehead, and yes it will.  no policies of any president in memory are that of the president.  he doesn't make law, he merely acts as a disinterested third branch, but is really party of the R&D cabal, which of course includes companies/individuals who detest competition.

 

[knabe]

what is really going on

brokeback mountain.

 

[segersmom]

@ The Show, I think I would really like that teacher!

Here's some food for thought, and I'm only talking about illegals who DON'T have stolen identities that allow them to pay taxes  

My mom is a doctor in the ER, my dad is a doctor who sometimes works in urgent care (he lives in AZ).  I don't have specific numbers, but Mom estimates the average cost of an ER visit to be $400-500.  The average collection on an ER visit, and this number is solid, is $70.  Part of this discrepancy comes from illegals, especially in AZ, because the ER can't refuse to see people, and the most illegals don't have health insurance.  And I don't know what the cost per child of attending public school, but all the illegal children do go.  So right there, with just two issues, taxpayers are hammered by illegals.  They don't own property, so no tax there.  The ones that don't have stolen ID's can't pay income tax.  So the only tax they pay is sales tax.

Heck, if they want to be here, I wouldn't really care, as long as they had to pay what every other (law-abiding) American has to pay.  In all fairness, I did know one illegal who had a stolen social security number, and he was caught because he paid income tax and never filed for a refund.  He raised that guy's credit score, too!  So, I don't know what the right answer is, but I am tired of paying for illegals' children to go to school, and I darn sure don't want to cover all their medical expenses.

 

[knabe]

not my quote, but it's good.

Gonorrhea Lectim is easily cured with a new drug just coming on the market called Votemout.

 

[Cattledog]

As a parent, I'm more concerned with sex-offenders.  In the U.S. we track these offenders and send out warnings to people living within a certain radius.  If these people jump the border and we don't know who they are it makes it harder for us to protect the ones we love and care about.  Yes, the drain on society is a concern but nothing is more important to me than my wife and daughter!

I know that illegals aren't all criminals, but that doesn't make me sleep easier at night.

 

[crozz]

No it is not safe for them to be here. Oh, sorry you said safe for America. They need to go thru the same process as the terrorist, passports and all. How many were sent here because Mexico was tired of them? How many are murderers? How many plan on BUYING a home and paying taxes? They get payed cash and live off of our welfare system. What would happen if me and you tried to get across the border to Mexico? PRISON OR DEATH  BY MACHETTE (SP?)

 

[loveRedcows]

Take it from someone who has to live with & deal with them on a daily basis --- the law is the law and breaking the law is breaking the law, no matter what the reason.  You ought to see them scatter like mice when a green & white vehicle approaches one of the diaries around here.

 

[knabe]

As a parent, I'm more concerned with sex-offenders. 

fact is this is a societal issue as to the age of consent.  it's a lot younger for latino's.  and since there is no assimilation allowed, ie we can't impose our morals on illegals because it's racist, more young girls are at risk and should be eductated as such.

Mexico

In Mexico, criminal legislation is shared between the federal and state governments. The federal law establishes the age of 12 as the minimum age of consent, while the age at which there are no restrictions for consensual sexual activities is 18 (sex with children 12-18 is not illegal per se, but can still be open to prosecution under certain circumstances). Local state laws may override the federal law. In practice , the decision as to whether or not to prosecute is left to state authorities regardless of the younger person's age. At state level, the minimum ages of consent vary between 12 (and puberty in a few states) and 15, while the age at which there are no restrictions for consensual sexual activities vary from 16 to 18 (most common 18).