Augusta Pride 3127 Son

[dare3324]

If this has been covered I am sorry, but, I was unable to find it. I am looking for a son of GCC Augusta Pride 3127. Does anyone know of one and if so what is your opinion of him?

 

[Okotoks]

The ASA site shows she has 36 daughters and her two oldest calves were unregistered bulls. Maybe she has a younger unregistered son. They must have been using sexed semen on her!

 

[blackdiamond]

Maybe her sons aren't worth a terd...  Which seems like a trend in the show modern Shorthorns.

But, what kind of idiot would say that?  I'm betting her sons were so good- they cut them all and then they turned into national champion shorthorn steers. 

 

[clgcattle45x]

Bill Razor has one his name i WHR Augusta Sunrise. I have a couple daughters in my herd, they are really good productive daughters and they are easy keepers.

 

[trevorgreycattleco]

I think that cow is the dam of the GCC Augusta pride cow asked about.

 

[Jacob B]

It's been a while since I have looked into it...but, isn't Augusta Sunrise a "SS" out of sonny?  The original 3127, which has more sons like the Rodeo Drive son Ricky Bobby, I could be wrong on that one because it's been a while since I have looked into bulls out of the old cow.  Not GCC Augusta Pride 3127 as was asked about in the original post.  If you are refering to the daughter of GCC 3127 out of Solution that raised a Red Reward bull calf that they showed as a cow/calf pair this past summer and later sold through the fall production sale...I think they called him "Red Lion" maybe.  I was actually wondering how he was doing myself.  I hadn't heard much about him lately.  As to the original question, I have never heard of GCC Augusta Pride having a son of any sort.  

 

[dare3324]

I looked up the WHR Augusta Sunrise on the asa site and came up with nothing. Is it possible they changed the name? Also am I looking past the obvious and there is a full sib bull to her? Thanks for all the help so far.

 

[Jacob B]

WHR RT AUGUSTA SUNRISE 2107 ET, is listed as "WHRRT AUGUSTASUNRISE 2107 ET" on the website and his reg. number is *x4069170.  But he is a son of the original ss augusta pride3127 cow not GCC Augusta Pride 3127.  GCC ESQ AUGUSTA PRIDE 3 ET is the mother to Red LION, that cow is a GCC Augusta Pride 3127 x CF Solution.  Hope this helps, still no bull calves out of GCC Augusta Pride 3127.

 

[blackdiamond]

WHR RT AUGUSTA SUNRISE 2107 ET, is listed as "WHRRT AUGUSTASUNRISE 2107 ET" on the website and his reg. number is *x4069170.  But he is a son of the original ss augusta pride3127 cow not GCC Augusta Pride 3127.  GCC ESQ AUGUSTA PRIDE 3 ET is the mother to Red LION, that cow is a GCC Augusta Pride 3127 x CF Solution.  Hope this helps, still no bull calves out of GCC Augusta Pride 3127.

I believe that we have a grand daughter of this above mentioned Augusta Sunrise bull-- she herself, isn't much to look at- and pretty hard doing-- but we have a bred daughter of her's-- sired by Wildside= that is a rip...

I'll have to double check, we are talking about the same bull...

 

[dare3324]

Thanks for all the help. I will check out Sunrise and Red lion. Just to let you know I am looking to use him on a solution daughter and granddaughter that is it of jazz.

 

[bcosu]

She throws LOTS of females. Weren't many, if any, bulls that I know of.

 

[blackdiamond]

She throws LOTS of females. Weren't many, if any, bulls that I know of.

'SHE' doesn't have anything to do with it...  Go back to basic genetics and learn who contributes x's and y's...

 

[sizzler14]

I used to own the Flushmate to GCC Augusta Pride 3127 and he was junk. We used him as our herd bull for 3 years until he killed 7 cows and we decided he would look better at the stock sale than our pasture. His calves never grew out either

 

[justintime]

She throws LOTS of females. Weren't many, if any, bulls that I know of.

'SHE' doesn't have anything to do with it...  Go back to basic genetics and learn who contributes x's and y's...

I know the basic genetics very well, however, I have often wondered if some females could have some say in the sex of their calves., or is what I happened to see with one cow and her daughters just genetic chance? Several years ago, I had a cow that made me wonder about this. She had 8 calves in our herd... all were heifers. I kept 3 daughters in my herd, and none of them ever had a bull calf.... all heifers. 3 other daughters were sold in our production sales and I never heard of any male calves from them. The other 2 daughters did not go into production. Like I said, I understand how the genetics works, but was this just chance?

On another note, I also have seen some THC bulls that seem to pass the defect on to their offsrping at a higher rate than other THC sires do. Is this just by chance as well?

 

[blackdiamond]

She throws LOTS of females. Weren't many, if any, bulls that I know of.

'SHE' doesn't have anything to do with it...  Go back to basic genetics and learn who contributes x's and y's...

I know the basic genetics very well, however, I have often wondered if some females could have some say in the sex of their calves., or is what I happened to see with one cow and her daughters just genetic chance? Several years ago, I had a cow that made me wonder about this. She had 8 calves in our herd... all were heifers. I kept 3 daughters in my herd, and none of them ever had a bull calf.... all heifers. 3 other daughters were sold in our production sales and I never heard of any male calves from them. The other 2 daughters did not go into production. Like I said, I understand how the genetics works, but was this just chance?

On another note, I also have seen some THC bulls that seem to pass the defect on to their offsrping at a higher rate than other THC sires do. Is this just by chance as well?

luck for same reason that some cows never have heifer calves...

the 'hotter' THC and PHAC bulls, are also chance like most will tellyou, however, I ted to agrew with you and that some are hotter than tothers.  My theory?  The THC sperm are either faster, or stronger.. and therefore the clean sperm die, and the dirty ones hit the gg.  Even though half the sperm are clean dnd half dirty-- if all the clean ones are dead or twisted-- then 100 percent of the sperm are carrier...  just backwoods thinking from jack off though.. 

 

[twc77]

She throws LOTS of females. Weren't many, if any, bulls that I know of.

'SHE' doesn't have anything to do with it...  Go back to basic genetics and learn who contributes x's and y's...

I know the basic genetics very well, however, I have often wondered if some females could have some say in the sex of their calves., or is what I happened to see with one cow and her daughters just genetic chance? Several years ago, I had a cow that made me wonder about this. She had 8 calves in our herd... all were heifers. I kept 3 daughters in my herd, and none of them ever had a bull calf.... all heifers. 3 other daughters were sold in our production sales and I never heard of any male calves from them. The other 2 daughters did not go into production. Like I said, I understand how the genetics works, but was this just chance?

On another note, I also have seen some THC bulls that seem to pass the defect on to their offsrping at a higher rate than other THC sires do. Is this just by chance as well?

luck for same reason that some cows never have heifer calves...

the 'hotter' THC and PHAC bulls, are also chance like most will tellyou, however, I ted to agrew with you and that some are hotter than tothers.  My theory?  The THC sperm are either faster, or stronger.. and therefore the clean sperm die, and the dirty ones hit the gg.  Even though half the sperm are clean dnd half dirty-- if all the clean ones are dead or twisted-- then 100 percent of the sperm are carrier...  just backwoods thinking from jack off though.. 

      Agree whole heartedly with the last sentence of the last post. I learned in AA that admiting you have a problem is the first step to recovery ..