I've got a Angus bull I used on heifers this year to cleanup that has been with a few surprises.....He is a DUFF NEW EDITION son that is fairly classy and stout, when I kept him he was a low BW. 2.00 , NOW I'M getting calves and he an his sire are both BW. 4.00 NOW, but the calves have been coming basically with no problems out of clubby females and ANGUS & CHAROLAIS ALSO .. And one of my friends got a heifer calf out of Heat Wave daughter that they thought really looks good, extra hair and bone ....Some of the calves out of our heifers look pretty good to what most of our just Angus CALVING EASE bulls .....