Black gold, stout, couple others

[knabe]

Was going through some old issues of stock show and whatever it morphed into or from. And found this. Only pic I’ve ever seen of black gold.

Anyone have a better one?

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Saw that years ago good bull at the time-and Trump is certainly on the Obama stoooopid list LOL O0

 

[knabe]

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[knabe]

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[knabe]

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[Telos]

Always wanted to know what Black Gold looked like. He's a big boy for being line-bred Cunia.

 

[Medium Rare]

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How did he work?

We line bred JDS Stout and Witch Doctor back and forth on each other for many years before before turning Shorthorns loose on them.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Hey Medium-what did you use on that red maines calves-I remember Stout as a semi calving ease deal-I think Mccune sold demen him and I havent seen them but heard Witchdoctor x Shorthorns were a pretty good cross-Id like to see more pics of yours-because alot of the Black bulls have had mixed results on Horns. Maybe the best reasonable calving plus showy ones Ive seen are Mercedes Benz by Shorthorn-Wernickes produced one last year that was a stone barnburner-Tore it up all over Iowa and Illinois whooping up on $20000 females and she sold I think in low $2s. O0

 

[Medium Rare]

Hey Medium-what did you use on that red maines calves-I remember Stout as a semi calving ease deal-I think Mccune sold demen him and I havent seen them but heard Witchdoctor x Shorthorns were a pretty good cross-Id like to see more pics of yours-because alot of the Black bulls have had mixed results on Horns. Maybe the best reasonable calving plus showy ones Ive seen are Mercedes Benz by Shorthorn-Wernickes produced one last year that was a stone barnburner-Tore it up all over Iowa and Illinois whooping up on $20000 females and she sold I think in low $2s. O0

Those cows were all very easy calving, moderate, good uddered, and eye appealing. Probably too small framed for their era and every now and then a Witch Doctor daughter would have a bit of an attitude. If you stacked Stout and Witch Doctor enough times to see regression the female would have no milk. If the females looked ok, they milked fine. I honestly can't even remember why we were stacking those lines, but I wouldn't be afraid to use Witch Doctor as a calving ease sire today. The first white bull we ran on them was 3959960 and the second had a lot of Irish as well but I can't seem to remember the bull's name. Those blue roan daughters lived forever though.

Years ago we bought some red Maines from Hartman in a sale of nearly all blacks. I sure wish I could remember or figure out what their pedigrees were because those cows were damn good and could be bred to anything and throw a mid 70lb calf that would go on to be very functional. Cow line is still going strong in the commercial herd, but they're a long ways from being Maine anymore. I plan to put Yukon back into a couple of them to Maine them back up some.

Other than some of the better I-80 and Daddy's Money stuff, I can't say I've noticed many modern Maine x Shorthorn crosses that jump out at me. Checked out some Maternal Mades a while back that were pretty good, but considering the shorthorn cow the calves were out of I expected better. The blue Benz posted on here quite a while back sure looked nice.

 

[knabe]

i actually have semen on this bull. last stock show mag i have.

 

[knabe]

draft pick. i have semen on this bull for some reason

 

[knabe]

polled premier

 

[knabe]

de 310, dam of powerplant.

 

[Maines in PA]

Are these bulls really that old? A big chunk of my cows go back to Stout and Overload. K&A Amtrack was another we used. Big cattle and fertility was a problem with the Amtracks- at least here. Those cow families have weeded themselves out. If I remember correctly, these bulls were among the first decent sized wave of black polled Maines. There weren't a bunch of options. Also used a bull called Coal Miner - a Chicago son I think.

Is that a picture of Stout, or his brother Real Stout?

 

[knabe]

Is that a picture of Stout, or his brother Real Stout?

not sure. i'll go back and look if i can find it.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

I have known "Moola" Mark Mueller for over 20 years and he is in Hiawatha where my cattle were. So we"d go through his cattle alot-Saw Hartmans too The thickest Maine bull Ive ever seen and he was absoluetly sound was DMCC Friction-a Fear This by Draftpick  O0

 

[knabe]

The thickest Maine bull Ive ever seen and he was absoluetly sound was DMCC Friction-a Fear This by Draftpick  O0

can't find him in registry

 

[knabe]

jazz

 

[knabe]

jillian

 

[knabe]

caqui