Blue Roan Simmentals????

[Hilltop]

Just seen a pic of a pretty good purebred blue bull. How common are they, and are they frowned upon by breeders or not???

 

[simba]

I think I saw the same picture as you did. I don't follow Simmentals too closely but I sure was shocked to see a purebred blue one!

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Where can I see him-I LOVE ANY blue roans-and the Simm-Shorthorn cross works-when its good-its way good. O0

 

[Gargan]

Yes, bring on the pics!! <nopics>

 

[SSIMMENTALS]

7/8 is PB for simmys; he's been bred up to PB status just kept that white allele so he's blue...he's just as "legit" a purebred as an Angus bred simmy up to pb status, just he sticks out like a sore thumb!! We've shown a pair of darn good blue percentage simmys and have found many of the simmy people aren't terribly keen on the color and the cross it represents. We've taken a lot of strange looks and jokes from it. Most will admit the cattle are good; while commenting that that's not the direction their program will ever head. Some of the younger more open minded guys are pretty positive about it though. I would imagine a purebred would be seen as even more of a black sheep than a %, but that's just me and our experiences.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

7/8 is PB for simmys; he's been bred up to PB status just kept that white allele so he's blue...he's just as "legit" a purebred as an Angus bred simmy up to pb status, just he sticks out like a sore thumb!! We've shown a pair of darn good blue percentage simmys and have found many of the simmy people aren't terribly keen on the color and the cross it represents. We've taken a lot of strange looks and jokes from it. Most will admit the cattle are good; while commenting that that's not the direction their program will ever head. Some of the younger more open minded guys are pretty positive about it though. I would imagine a purebred would be seen as even more of a black sheep than a %, but that's just me and our experiences.

7/8 is PB for simmys; he's been bred up to PB status just kept that white allele so he's blue...he's just as "legit" a purebred as an Angus bred simmy up to pb status, just he sticks out like a sore thumb!! We've shown a pair of darn good blue percentage simmys and have found many of the simmy people aren't terribly keen on the color and the cross it represents. We've taken a lot of strange looks and jokes from it. Most will admit the cattle are good; while commenting that that's not the direction their program will ever head. Some of the younger more open minded guys are pretty positive about it though. I would imagine a purebred would be seen as even more of a black sheep than a %, but that's just me and our experiences./// No more of a black sheep than a black Simmi-considering that they were originally red and white O0

 

[RyanChandler]

Proves 7/8ths isn't enough.  If the roan coloring is still retained from the breed- up breed, what other (non Simmental) characteristics have been retained as well?

 

[knabe]

what other genes are linked with roaning that contribute to physical characteristics?

 

[ALTSIMMY 79]

To each their own but I sure wouldn't want any blue roan simmys for anything ! That's a Shorthorn trademark that should be left with the Shorthorn breeders period ! Nothing wrong with them but it won't ever be happening here. Sometimes I believe the " hodge podge " factor goes way too far.

 

[Hilltop]

He is 15/16 and not just 7/8.

 

[Till-Hill]

To each their own but I sure wouldn't want any blue roan simmys for anything ! That's a Shorthorn trademark that should be left with the Shorthorn breeders period ! Nothing wrong with them but it won't ever be happening here. Sometimes I believe the " hodge podge " factor goes way too far.

oh come on now! It makes for a fun pasture!

 

[knabe]

I think the breed is sumangital.

 

[firesweepranch]

He is 15/16 and not just 7/8.

What is his registered name?

 

[redsimmsnangus]

To each their own but I sure wouldn't want any blue roan simmys for anything ! That's a Shorthorn trademark that should be left with the Shorthorn breeders period ! Nothing wrong with them but it won't ever be happening here. Sometimes I believe the " hodge podge " factor goes way too far.

Good thing the black Simmis aren't an Angus trademark.  Seriously.  :

 

[RyanChandler]

To each their own but I sure wouldn't want any blue roan simmys for anything ! That's a Shorthorn trademark that should be left with the Shorthorn breeders period ! Nothing wrong with them but it won't ever be happening here. Sometimes I believe the " hodge podge " factor goes way too far.

Good thing the black Simmis aren't an Angus trademark.  Seriously.  :

And the solid reds are?

 

[mark tenenbaum]

You all can do whatever-if he isnt way over board on BWS Id use that thick chunk in a minute-he reminds of the old Shorthorn Angus crosses I used to see;

 

[Hilltop]

He is 15/16 and not just 7/8.

What is his registered name?

LFE BISS LEWIS 448A reg#788868

 

[ALTSIMMY 79]

Easy now lol ! You've all got a point , black , red , both crossbreeding infused color patterns but the blue is where I draw the line ! Seriously thought many times about going back to fleck cattle !!!! My father tells me all the time my black baldys aren't Simmental , their white face Angus , he's got a point......

 

[firesweepranch]

He is 15/16 and not just 7/8.

What is his registered name?

LFE BISS LEWIS 448A reg#788868

That is not his Simmental registered name or number. What is his Simmental info?
I found this bull in the data base, which is close, LFE BS LEWIS 322U , reg # 2585159, but he is a 2008 model, and I went back three generations and found no shorthorn in his record. I looked at the offspring of the bull I found, and no such luck there either.

 

[CJB]

You've got to look on the Canadian Simmental Association to find him. 

http://search.simmental.com/anisch.aspx