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nck21

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On May 9th we AI'd an Alias heifer to Jazzman. She came back into heat yesterday but Wednesday we took blood from her and sent it to Genetic Horizons for testing. Today the result came back "Pregnant". We've used the test before and it's been accurate but she was definitely in heat yesterday.
 

CPL

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Did the report give the amount of PSPB in her blood?

I always sent in my samples to the actual BioTracking Inc and they would send back full results along with their interpretation. I'm sure its just in my head, but I never liked the idea of labs other than BioTracking doing the blood work.

With this being a heifer, any PSPB would have to mean she did "get pregnant". But its always possible she lost the pregnancy.
What you can do, and i've had to do in the past, is submit another blood sample. If GH is giving  you actual PSPB data  you can compare the two samples. If the amount of PSPB is greater than the first sample: she's pregnant and the embryo is growing, if its less (and it would be significantly less) you are probably looking at embryonic death.
 

nck21

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Her blood level was .254.  The other heifer that got bred three days before that was .288.

This was higher than the samples we sent in last year at 30 days. They were around .18.
We took her to the pasture yesterday to get bred by the bull so she'll be bred either way.
 

Show Heifer

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Ultrasound her.... would cost less than 2-3 blood test and you would actually SEE the embryo... pretty cool.
 

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I have seen cows show a false heat before and been preg. They will stand some and even ride other cows. It usually happens when the weather will change drastically. I have one cow that will usually do this every year but she always calves on time with the others that I AI with her. I would not load her with shots until you know for sure one way or the other.
 

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The most valuable lesson we ever learned, never assume anything!  We had a cow a couple of years ago that we had put an embryo in, we assumed she hadn't taken because forthe next couple of months she continued to be ridden by the bull, long story short she was older maybe
9-10 and came up lame with hoof problems, we decided since we couldn't seem to get her bred she was hamburger and we had her butchered, she was carrying a 5 month embyo calf, never assume because they are being jumped that they didn't take.
 

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I have often wondered how many pregnant cows I have shipped that showed a heat a long time after they were bred. Several years ago, I found a cow dripping wet from riding and  being rode, on a cold January day. You could even see the steam rising from the pen when I was driving up to do chores. I saw it was an older cow, that had been a good producer, but seeing I was taking some others to the auction mart, I put her on the trailer and sold her. We were feeding cattle yet at this time, and the auction mart that I sold her at had a pen in our feedlot where they assembled cattle and shipped them out when they found homes for them. Three weeks after I had sold this cow, I saw her come off the trailer of the auction mart owner and she went back into his pen. She had been resold by someone 3 weeks after I had sold her, and she ended up coming back here by pure luck. I could see that she was starting to show signs of getting close to calving, so I asked if I could buy her back. The auction mart owner agreed and she calved a couple weeks later. The following fall, the heifer calf this cow had, was the top selling heifer in our production sale at $4800 and sold to Iowa.  I wonder how many others I have done this too.

One of my donor cows, that I thought was bred to calve, cycled twice during this past winter, and I just assumed she had lost the pregnancy at some time, even though I had never seen any discharge from her. I took 3 donors to a transplant center and decided at the last minute that I might as well flush her as well seeing she was open. The vet ultrasounded the donors, and when he got to this cow, he said that she was about 7-7.5 months pregnant. She has a super CYT Pure Power bull calf on her now. I came very close to just giving her a shot of Estumate to set her up to be bred. This may not have caused her to dump the pregnancy at this stage, but I am sure it wouldn't have done any good either. I agree with Jill, in that you should never assume anything.
 

nck21

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It will be interesting to see whether she got AI'd or not. It really doesn't matter to me whether it is Jazzman or the bull we turned her out with, just as long as she has a live calf. We AI'd her on what I think was the first heat of her life. She never had been seen in heat before so she was started with a CIDR. She did get ridden by the bull the day I posted this thread. Will have to see if she has a February or March calf. It is easier to turn them out with the bull, that's for sure!
 
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