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DL

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SRU said:
much obliged!

It told me I had to wait an hour before giving the 2nd karma point - and now I don't remember if it was to you or RW - so somebody might get two!
 

chambero

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I've known more stupid horses than stupid cows.

A horse is perfectly willing to kill itself and you in an effort to escape the slight possibility of a perceived threat from something that might, possibly, maybe look kind of scary to it.  

Mules however are much too smart for me to be around.  I've never met one I felt superior to, or in control, of.

I remember reading something in college to the effect that if humans just disappeared that it would be an interesting race to see which species took our place, but racoons might have a good chance.

I've known several goats that were way to smart for their own good, and as a result, wound up getting cooked in a hole in the ground.  Which maybe means they aren't too smart after all.
 

ROAD WARRIOR

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dragon lady said:
A karma point and a mini silver tongue award to SRU and RW! (clapping) (clapping) (clapping)
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Point returned DL. Just wondering how many points it takes to start feeling either smarter or more socialy acceptable?
 

DL

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ROAD WARRIOR said:
dragon lady said:
A karma point and a mini silver tongue award to SRU and RW! (clapping) (clapping) (clapping)
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Point returned DL. Just wondering how many points it takes to start feeling either smarter or more socialy acceptable?

My karma keeps falling - I believe I have pi**ed off the karma fairy - so I now we need something else to feel smarter and more socially acceptable - how about carrots? celery? apples? ;D ;D
 

Show Heifer

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How does E.coli get on lettuce? I would submit SOMEONE didn't wash their hands....wish I got it from a cow!  Ugh, and eekk!  Puking smily face.
 

ROAD WARRIOR

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dragon lady said:
ROAD WARRIOR said:
dragon lady said:
A karma point and a mini silver tongue award to SRU and RW! (clapping) (clapping) (clapping)
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Point returned DL. Just wondering how many points it takes to start feeling either smarter or more socialy acceptable?

My karma keeps falling - I believe I have pi**ed off the karma fairy - so I now we need something else to feel smarter and more socially acceptable - how about carrots? celery? apples? ;D ;D

Sorry DL never been much of a vegitarian ( yes I consider chicken a vegtable) but a good apple pie with some ice cream sounds good!
 

Rocky Hill Simmental

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My cattle are pretty smart - Some more than others. They're all different and have their own ways of thinking. I have some that are loud, some that are quiet, some that like to get out of the fences, some that wouldn't get out even if the fence fell over, some that act great at shows, some that like goofballs at their shows, etc.

I can usually get a long with cattle better than people too. Cattle aren't as hateful as people are. Seriously, you'll see 2 of them fighting in the field and 5 minutes later they'll be licking each other like best friends. People hold gruges too long. At my high school graduation everyone was crying but not me - but I did cry when I sold my market show steer last week and I already miss him.

Cattle are the only animals I've ever been able to train. My horses like the run and throw their heads up when their getting lead and my mare doesn't take a bit. My dog won't walk on a leash, chases cars, and braks at strangers. My cattle walk with their ropes right next to me with their heads held high. Cattle are my favorite animals - I wouldn't trade them for anything else.  ;)
 

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E. coli gets on lettuce in a variety of ways.  a cow or other animal has it, and they poop.  pigs can root through that poop, and go into a lettuce field and drag their muzzle along the plants.  lettuce gets spray irrigated, spashed and spread.  it can persist in soil for 1-3 months, field gets cultivated, waterered etc.  fog, moisture, condensation, warmth, oxegen makes it grow.  i don't know the rinse procedures of all the different outlets, for instance, i don't know if organic sources can rinse with a low % bleach, but even this is not 100% as little leaves which are kinda bruised will harbor it, then the get tossed around during packaging, innoculating adjacent leaves, then one leaves it in the fridge too long, make a smoothie out of it and give it to an infant or an elderley person with a comprimised immune system gets a hold a bag with expired lettuce trying to save money or whatever, and gets a hold of it.  my wife rinses all our lettuce, bagged or not in a spinner, tosses out bruised leaves.  for countrified dirty in general folk, it's usually not a problem, and only manifests itself with mild stomach upset, diarhea, whatever, but in some fashion, this is like BSE or some other public health issue that is so low in actual occurance compared to other things, yet it gets constant pub.  250,000 people die every year from hospital error, but oh my goodness, 3 people die from E. coli and everyone has to put up chain link fences around their lettuce fields wasting time money, turnaround space, good farmland, maintenance etc.  bring on irradiation, especially for hamburger.  idealism has got to go.  what's wrong with CHOICE with a little label that says irradiated?  can't the non-irradiaists tolerate a little competition in the meat counter and lettuce bags and let US have a CHOICE?  nooooooooo, idealism is the new dogma we must replace our constitution with.  whose going to protect them from mislabled hamburger that was irradiated?  that said, more research is needed on brain disease and the low innoculum necessary with BSE.  so, what are the odds if innoculated with prions, that you will die from it before you die from something else?  it's a risk worth conflagration with absolutism.  one death is too many.  we must eliminate death. 
 

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I have some smart cows. They figured out how to create their own water park. They kept turning on the water and standing under it. It was a very hot couple of days. I am sure the cow in the photo is the ring leader. She can just about break into anyplace she wants.

 

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rtnok

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  To quote Kris Rock " no one in Ethiopia is lactose intolerent. "
 
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