Coyotes again

[ROAD WARRIOR]

It's that time of the year again when I start working on the coyote population in the pastures. So far I've got 17 out of the pasture here where I live, I havent started in the other pastures yet. RW

 

[the angus111]

we have a ton of them,funny they sound like they are right on your backporch and are 10 miles away.they really like antifreeze... rusty

 

[ROAD WARRIOR]

And cable neck ties! RW

 

[jlingle]

They sure dont' like those steel shoes I put on them.  I've got plenty of pictures on my home computer of coyotes in steel traps.  Trapping and calling predators are 2 of my loves in life.  It's hard to describe how much fun it is to call up a coyote or a bobcat.... or outsmart one with a trap set.  It's not legal to snare them here in Oklahoma, but if it were I think I could do some serious damage on the coyote population with those too.

 

[knabe]

can you ride them?

 

[Show Heifer]

I am going to put a different spin on this: I had a great uncle who hunted coyotes for longer than most of you have been alive (he died 2 years ago at the age of 98). He also raised hundreds of head of sheep, lambed them out, then fed out the lambs. He also had cows and calves.  He always told my Dad that "you never ever shoot the dominate male in the area UNLESS you have lost livestock to them. Coyotes are very territorial and the dominate male coyote will keep out every other male until that dominate male is too weak and is ran out. Males do most of the hunting. If your not having problems, don't mess with them. When you have problems, shoot only the coyote that is killing stock if you can. Leave the rest alone."

I have raised sheep and cows on the same farm my Dad has since 1969. (I have no record of the uncles stock from before) We have NEVER lost stock due to coyotes. Dogs, yes, Coyotes, No.  And we hear them in surround sound stero every good evening. I run coyote hunters off, in fact, several years ago, it got down right nasty when their dogs ran through my cows and calves and injured two calves.
The Iowa Code says that livestock owners can protect their livestock from DOGS "if livestock acts worried or concerned". Coyote hunter's dogs are classified as "dogs".

So, RW... if they come my way, I will send the hunters over to you!

 

[justintime]

One of my favorite of all time book titles is " Today I Baled Some Hay To Feed The Sheep The Coyotes Eat" . It was written by a South Dakota rancher, and had some great stories.

We have a pile of coyotes as well. I see them walking through the cattle pens in broad daylight sometimes.

 

[Sunset Hills]

We have them in va too

 

[CM Cattle]

It's that time of the year again when I start working on the coyote population in the pastures. So far I've got 17 out of the pasture here where I live, I havent started in the other pastures yet. RW

Me and a bunch of friends get togather every other weekend and go coyote huntin. One time and my buddy got 7 in one night.

 

[ROAD WARRIOR]

I am going to put a different spin on this: I had a great uncle who hunted coyotes for longer than most of you have been alive (he died 2 years ago at the age of 98). He also raised hundreds of head of sheep, lambed them out, then fed out the lambs. He also had cows and calves.  He always told my Dad that "you never ever shoot the dominate male in the area UNLESS you have lost livestock to them. Coyotes are very territorial and the dominate male coyote will keep out every other male until that dominate male is too weak and is ran out. Males do most of the hunting. If your not having problems, don't mess with them. When you have problems, shoot only the coyote that is killing stock if you can. Leave the rest alone."

I have raised sheep and cows on the same farm my Dad has since 1969. (I have no record of the uncles stock from before) We have NEVER lost stock due to coyotes. Dogs, yes, Coyotes, No.  And we hear them in surround sound stero every good evening. I run coyote hunters off, in fact, several years ago, it got down right nasty when their dogs ran through my cows and calves and injured two calves.
The Iowa Code says that livestock owners can protect their livestock from DOGS "if livestock acts worried or concerned". Coyote hunter's dogs are classified as "dogs".

So, RW... if they come my way, I will send the hunters over to you!

They won't hunt in the big country around here. I have lost calves to coyotes before - therefore my war on coyotes that rages on today. Dead coyotes don't kill much of anything. My neighbor lost two small dogs to them this summer, one he saw them take and the next one dissappeared that night. Coyotes in my oppinion are the outlaws of the animal world, they will steal or kill anything they can get ahold of and contrary to popular belief they don't kill only for food, they will also kill for recreatrion. I have witnessed this several times in my life personally. Show Heifer I knew your uncle 20+ years ago, maybe pushing 30 by now, and he was probably right about the territory deal to an extent, however there are males that travel into other ranges especialy during breeding season, this is what keeps the population from becoming inbred. Get in and get out before the residents catch you. I do doubt that a dominant male will run off a stock killing female especially during this time of the year. I am dealing with 3 packs of coyotes who's territories overlap about the middle of my pasture, and yes I refer to them as packs because that is what they are , not just an occaissional pair that wander through. These coyotes have found safety in numbers varying from 4 to as many as 7 in a group. Any time they get to running in groups it is not a good deal. A - It takes more food to support them and B - They lose alot of their natural fear of things that were too big for them to handle one on one. So I guess I will continue to kill all of them that I can and maybe the ones that I don't get will go live with Show Heifer. RW

 

[beattieclubcalves]

was wondering if anyone knew where i could get some snare traps?

 

[Show Heifer]

RW... Kill em all if they causing you trouble.... just leave mine alone. Deal? 
And I will send them hunters your way... they are not welcome here, and they are looking for new ground to hunt.

And trust me, I don't think you knew the uncle I am refering to..... but you might know my other uncle....

Anyway, happy hunting and good luck. It sucks losing livestock to dogs or coyotes after you've done all you can to get them on the ground.

 

[ba]

I have declared war on these pains but they are to get out of the brush,We are running a Lama and donkey .
They are pushing there luck as I am packn the heat .We are just starting the calving and it has already started.
Put up a couple predator guard solar lights to see if they will help keep them out.Probably have a steer that
got chased last summer and he is a nut case on top of that he was probably the best steer we ever raised.

 

[ROAD WARRIOR]

was wondering if anyone knew where i could get some snare traps?

Ebay

 

[beattieclubcalves]

ok i was always told you need a high power to shoot them anyone on here just shoot em with a 12 guage and get the job done?

 

[ROAD WARRIOR]

RW... Kill em all if they causing you trouble.... just leave mine alone. Deal?   
And I will send them hunters your way... they are not welcome here, and they are looking for new ground to hunt.

And trust me, I don't think you knew the uncle I am refering to..... but you might know my other uncle....

Anyway, happy hunting and good luck. It sucks losing livestock to dogs or coyotes after you've done all you can to get them on the ground.

I hunted with your uncle Tom years ago, don't know if thats the right one or not. They don't hunt here because it's 7 miles between roads and it's a little rough in places. Once in a while they chase one into here and they usually just let the dogs come out on their own. Yep Deal!

 

[shortyjock89]

ok i was always told you need a high power to shoot them anyone on here just shoot em with a 12 guage and get the job done?

I've shot Coyotes with a 12 guage at close range when pheasant hunting and it knocked them down, and then they got up and ran away.  You'd have to shoot em with slugs to put em down for sure.  I use a .223 and my dad uses a .243 and they do a pretty darn good job.

 

[ROAD WARRIOR]

ok i was always told you need a high power to shoot them anyone on here just shoot em with a 12 guage and get the job done?

12 ga with # 1 buckshot works. RW

 

[beattieclubcalves]

well sounds good to me ill prob be shootin with a 12 guage with deer slugs in it whats everyone gettin for pelts just got told round here you only get bout 5 bucks

 

[ba]

I have read and was told that if you hang them in a tree and open them up that they will leave
and not set foot in the area. Claim it is bad medicine