Deerpark Leader 16th and D.Seamus 4th

[Cabanha Santa Isabel - BR]

800 semen straws and 50 embryos...well, embryos I can't assume that, but semen straws I'm sure that we will to be able to broke this record soon, bringing semen to Brazil....need only get the correct price and bulls.
[What kind of bulls are you looking for?/quote]

No Irish and no asterisk I'm sure!
A good long, deep ribbed, full meat on quarterback...maybe a roan or white, horned or polled....a bull like some biotype found on Alta Cedar or Saskvalley.

It is going to find a bull that fits your criteria, at least here in Canada, unless you can accept some Irish in the background of their pedigree.  For example, our Saskvalley Pioneer 126P bull goes back to Huberdale Mastercharge 42T ( by Deerpark Improver 52nd) eight times and to Highfield Irish Mist also eight times in his extended pedigree. I just glanced at the pedigree of Saskvalley Yesterday that Semex is marketing, and there are multiples of Highfield Irish Mist, Deerpark Improver 52nd and old Deerpark Improver throughout his pedigree.  I just checked a couple well known Alta Cedar sires and was able to find Highfield Irish Mist, Deerpark Dividend, Illawara breeding from Australia ( 5/8 Shorthorn at best) and some older Canadian Dual purpose breeding in their backgrounds.  I have only found a couple animals in the past few years that I could not trace to some Irish or Milking Shorthorn blood . There are some very impressive and great breeding Shorthorns today, and IMO, we should accept them for their good traits they offer.

Yes you are sure...almost all good bulls I saw on Canada are irish ancestor....is almost impossible get something irish free. Only Native are free (by pedigree of course). By the way I will to be accept irish ancestors, but how long back they are, better for me.

I think that my criteria is running down. I wish not asterisk animals, but irish are asterisk (without knew ancestor that is worst)...so...nothing to do with it.

 

[Cabanha Santa Isabel - BR]

First all, I think not exist perfect bull or perfect enough. Always we will need some thing to add to next calves crop.

Here we have a very limit semen offer, and our cattle yet show some close breeding here...so we can choose the bulls that will come. maybe to avoid some mistakes that I see ocurring is North America.

Yes, low birth weights are an important thing as we keep our cattle without close attention, and none one wish to stay a long night on the field waiting for an elephant calf as many times was mentioned on posts.

Our cows must to be 500 to 600 kg, not much more....I wish sale more fat cattle on a year than a big weight on two years. I sell meat - long body, deep ribbed animals - not DEP numbers. Also I not like much of Irish and asterisks (specially Illawarra descendants or Rodeo Drive) as they take off the posterior meat of our cattle - literally. And now, the Shorthorn breed is having some new search for commercial breeders as we got to let behind these kind genetics, and the ones that use it are having not success on bulls sales.

Due to these I not wish irish at very close generations and wish not asterisks (high birth weight and more body mantenence).

This is my bussiness and my market....native grass...no grain or artificial supplements....this is what I have in mind and am looking for.

 

[Cabanha Santa Isabel - BR]

Finally, I think that turn to this rethoric matter of purity, fake pure lines pedigrees, what is better for you or me....is lost of time.
Bred what will make money for you...wrong or right, follow your mind.
Thank you.

 

[OH Breeder]

How about a photo of Deerpark Tulip 5th?  She was used heavily

 

[beebe]

Cabanha Santa Isabel
I am not a world renown expert but you and I think alot alike and are doing similar things with our cattle.  If I can be of any help to you in your attempt to find the kind of cattle you are looking for I would sure be willing to try.  If not I wish you good luck in your venture. 

 

[knabe]

Cunia was 118 I think but he was used for a low bw bull.

 

[Cabanha Santa Isabel - BR]

Cabanha Santa Isabel
I am not a world renown expert but you and I think alot alike and are doing similar things with our cattle.  If I can be of any help to you in your attempt to find the kind of cattle you are looking for I would sure be willing to try.  If not I wish you good luck in your venture.

Thanks for your offer. I'm glad.
I think that last comments were clear. People raise what they want, these are their proper choices.
Agree with your view point. thanks.

P.S. Will start to express my ideas with short sentences, think that will to be easier to avoid gramathical wrongs! ehehehehe...

 

[Cabanha Santa Isabel - BR]

Cunia was 118 I think but he was used for a low bw bull.

Knabe, I scanned lots of AI Maine bulls that were offered on sale catalogues on 70's. Remember that you is a Maine fan.  (thumbsup)