Did you know mkt heifers at NW had to be open?

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simtal

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yuppiecowboy said:
That always almost brought tears to my eyes seeing the grand and reserve mkt heifers at ISF and knowing they had to die. I know that they arent optimum maternal stock, but my heaven, they are majestic creatures.

I heard today that they preg check the new market heifer class at Denver and you have to be open or you go home.

feel sorry for heifers?  gimme a friggin break.
 

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Just for interest, a heifer was overall reserve grand at the NWSS.
 

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yuppiecowboy said:
That always almost brought tears to my eyes seeing the grand and reserve mkt heifers at ISF and knowing they had to die. I know that they arent optimum maternal stock, but my heaven, they are majestic creatures.

I heard today that they preg check the new market heifer class at Denver and you have to be open or you go home.
 

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The market heifer class at the ISF is very competitive.It started out at around 20 head and has grown.One of the big reasons is that they are included in the sale of champions along with champion and reserve steer and have good support.Market heifers are judged the same as steers and shouldnt look like fat breeding heifers.They odds arent good of them being a good milking productive cow but there have been exceptions.By flushing or single egging  them and putting that egg in a productive cow has worked several times for bulls steers and heifers.The reason some are bred is they all cant win and .85 a lb. doesnt look to profitable. Actualy I think the breeding heifers that are shown as long yearlings need to be checked.The usual excuse is shes going into transplant when in reality a few champions never make it into production.Hard to have it both ways and market heifers should be terminal no matter how eye appealing they are.A wise cattleman told me once bulls need to look like bulls,heifers like females and offspring the best of both.It seems we all seem to know what we want it just getting there that is aproblem and breeding like to like seems to not result in much progress
 

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simtal...imagine preg checking a surgical altered steer. |Technically he would be open.
 

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We always breed our market heifers.  When they are bred they gain better and will fill out a lot better.  If you know you're going to send them to kill I would breed them as early as possible...
 

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Dusty said:
We always breed our market heifers.  When they are bred they gain better and will fill out a lot better.  If you know you're going to send them to kill I would breed them as early as possible...

They may gain better but it's going to have a negative impact on yields.

Mike
 

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Dusty said:
We always breed our market heifers.  When they are bred they gain better and will fill out a lot better.  If you know you're going to send them to kill I would breed them as early as possible...

This should be the reason they preg check every class of market heifers..... if they are market heifers, they should not be bred.
 

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Show Heifer said:
Dusty said:
We always breed our market heifers.  When they are bred they gain better and will fill out a lot better.  If you know you're going to send them to kill I would breed them as early as possible...

This should be the reason they preg check every class of market heifers..... if they are market heifers, they should not be bred.
If your selling the heifer in an auction and concerned at all about the end product you might be sticking into some business that is supporting your local livestock sale with big premiums, i wouldn't recommend having them bred.  Bred extremely short might be an option if your concerned about the heifer cycling the day of the show.  A lutalayse shot or two leading up to the fair would be a way around that.
 

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So again I ask, why not spay them?    Several of our area vets still spay grass heifers as it is virtually impossible to keep them open all summer.     
 

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kanshow said:
So again I ask, why not spay them?    Several of our area vets still spay grass heifers as it is virtually impossible to keep them open all summer.     

ever heard of mga?
 

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Simtal they run large #s of cattle with different owners all together on huge open range pastures in Kansas. It's a site to see. 10s of thousands of acres in the Flint Hills area. There are vet clinics that spay heifers reasonable. I have had PPL ask that we spay heifers for market projects and will oblige. Cost for the last one that I did was approx $30.00 and did require a surgical shave and a few stitches. I'm not sure if all do or not. 
 

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A friend of ours had the Champion Market heifer at the Iowa State Fair a few years ago.  They flushed her beforehand.
 

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Has anyone tried just glue and stuff on a steer to make it look like a heifer. You would have to glue on an artifical vagina. It would be cheaper than surgical. And just hope the calf doesn't take a leak in the ring.
 
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