Took one of our new potential donors to flush yesterday and had a flop. Had trouble calving this past year and tech thinks her ova ducts may be blocked any one dealt with this and if so any thing that can be done to fix it. Thanks in advance.
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Cowboy
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If you can -- get some more details on here so I can see what all took place -- dosage, time line of initial heat versus start of injections, how she acted when in heat -- how many did they feel they were going to get to start with -- anything you can remember will help me tell you the possibilities of her end result.
How long was she open before this procedure will also dictate some things too. Was she clean -- or was there a slight infection???
Let me know.
I have had several donors come here of late that were at other places first, and let me tell ya -- there are some really pretty well wrecked cows out there. Your cow, having never been flushed yet, may just have some small issue!
Terry
How long was she open before this procedure will also dictate some things too. Was she clean -- or was there a slight infection???
Let me know.
I have had several donors come here of late that were at other places first, and let me tell ya -- there are some really pretty well wrecked cows out there. Your cow, having never been flushed yet, may just have some small issue!
Terry
3dfarms
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I'd be interested to know as well. We have an older cow that we are considering flushing in the Spring. She is a power house of a cow, and has great calves. We had someone who has some interest in calves out of her to so we thought we would flush her before she got way on up there.
I have two concerns:
1 - her age, is flushing an old cow still worthwhile?
2 - three years ago she had a still birth calf that had to be pulled. The calf was pretty good size and it was somewhat of a hard pull. two years ago she calved no problems but the vet checked her and called her open. I called her pregnant and didn't Lut her because I was afraid she was bred. She did in fact have a perfectly healthy calf. This year a different vet checked her late in her pregnancy and called her either open or carrying a mummy calf. I almost took the cow to the stockyards because I thought she must still be having some issues, but did not because of what had happened the two previous years. I thought maybe she had a weird tract or something that made it hard to check her. Would that be the case and would it still be worthwhile to flush her?
Not trying to steal your post BN 32 but trying to prevent a similar thing from happening. Good luck to you!
I have two concerns:
1 - her age, is flushing an old cow still worthwhile?
2 - three years ago she had a still birth calf that had to be pulled. The calf was pretty good size and it was somewhat of a hard pull. two years ago she calved no problems but the vet checked her and called her open. I called her pregnant and didn't Lut her because I was afraid she was bred. She did in fact have a perfectly healthy calf. This year a different vet checked her late in her pregnancy and called her either open or carrying a mummy calf. I almost took the cow to the stockyards because I thought she must still be having some issues, but did not because of what had happened the two previous years. I thought maybe she had a weird tract or something that made it hard to check her. Would that be the case and would it still be worthwhile to flush her?
Not trying to steal your post BN 32 but trying to prevent a similar thing from happening. Good luck to you!
Started shots 10 days after her first heat came in on time and had a good good heat calved last march vet thought she had a decent response witch useally means 8 to 10 eggs every thing was clear looking didn't appear to be any infection.Cowboy said:
Cowboy
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If I am reading you correctly here -- it sounds as though you used her FIRST natural heat after calving -- ?? is this correct??
If so -- RED FLAG
Even though the uterus is almost completely healed by 30 days after calving, the endometium is still enflamed, the falopiamn tubes will be also to some degree -- it just takes a little time to heal after what that uterus had just gone thru.
I will never intentially use a first heat donor for a flush sequence. I did one this year unknowingly to me, and she was 63 days post partum on FLUSH day. Luckily for every one, she felt good, had 14 of 15 total eggs good -- and there was no problem. However I did notice while searching that there were literaly hundreds of little red balls in there that are normally not in there. Come to find out later she was only 40 days along when she showed her day -0- heat.
Let them have 2 natural heats before you try and flush one, it makes a huge difference.
Hope that will help you in the future!
Terry
If so -- RED FLAG
Even though the uterus is almost completely healed by 30 days after calving, the endometium is still enflamed, the falopiamn tubes will be also to some degree -- it just takes a little time to heal after what that uterus had just gone thru.
I will never intentially use a first heat donor for a flush sequence. I did one this year unknowingly to me, and she was 63 days post partum on FLUSH day. Luckily for every one, she felt good, had 14 of 15 total eggs good -- and there was no problem. However I did notice while searching that there were literaly hundreds of little red balls in there that are normally not in there. Come to find out later she was only 40 days along when she showed her day -0- heat.
Let them have 2 natural heats before you try and flush one, it makes a huge difference.
Hope that will help you in the future!
Terry
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