Double Vision heifer!

[DCC_Cattle]

Awhile back, I posted some pictures of a Double Vision heifer that I raised. Just thought I would post an updated picture of her. She was Calf Champion Female at the Ohio State Fair Open Shorthorn Show. She has been shown 4 times and has been 1st three times!

 

[OH Breeder]

Congrats Nikki. She is nice looking gal!

 

[the angus111]

OH BREEDER,I HAVE SEEN ALOT OF DOUBLE VISION CALVES AND HAD ONE TOO.REALLY NICE.I KNOW THE" TH "FACTOR COMES IN,BUT I AM SURPRISED THAT HE DONT SEEM TO BE USED ANYMORE,NOW ALL THE CALVES I SAW WERE HEIFERS,I DONT KNOW IF HE WAS A STEER MAKER OR NOT.RUSTY

 

[shortyjock89]

He is still used here in IL!  We showed a Double Vision x Trump this year and she ended up winning her class for Land of Lincoln Jr. Show day (3rd overall in class) and reserve division jr. show Land of Lincoln, and then winning her class Open Show day at the Illinois State Fair. 

He was, and IS still definitely a steermaker, I've seen lots of good steers from him.

 

[forbes family farms]

WOW WHAT A HEIFER! SHE IS A SMOKING HOT HEIFER! REALLY NICE HEIFER!

 

[TMJ Show Cattle]

Yes DV is still around and doing great. The only problem I have ever encountered with his females,some don't milk very well as cows. He is DS best son and if you didn't know he works great on Angus females.

 

[SEA]

How would you compare Double Vision to 20/20?

 

[CPL]

Very nice heifer. Congratulations

 

[shortyjock89]

How would you compare Double Vision to 20/20?

Better. The best son of Double Vision is XRay and his full sibs.  I like 20/20's cow a bunch though.

 

[AG TEACHER]

Great heifer if she is TH and PHA free...

 

[DCC_Cattle]

Thanks everyone for the comments!

Great heifer if she is TH and PHA free...

However, I do not agree with this statement. Her being good has nothing to do with her TH/PHA status. We'll find out the results her in a couple weeks, but even if she is a carrier, I could care less!

 

[sjcattleco]

However, I do not agree with this statement. Her being good has nothing to do with her TH/PHA status. We'll find out the results her in a couple weeks, but even if she is a carrier, I could care less!
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HMM interesting statement.... as a breeder TH an PHA status has everything to do with being good!

 

[ShowmanQ]

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HMM interesting statement.... as a breeder TH an PHA status has everything to do with being good!
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Well, I'll open the can of worms...
When a breeder is breeding for calves  (such as this heifer) with a main goal being to get him/her in a backdrop photo, for show ring purposes....TH and PHA is very low on the list of priorities. This heifer will make the owners a very good show prospect, and probably a hell of a cow later on. The fact that she could be a carrier will not matter one bit when it comes to how she does on the show road, and in all reality it should not stack up to a hill of beans as far as her life as a cow either. If you have a carrier, breed her to a non carrier, it's really just that simple. Smart managment is the key. No one is telling anyone to go out and buy "dirty" genetics and breed them to carriers. If a female is truly a good one (and this one is) then her TH status is very easily controlled by smart managment. NO, you are not going to eradicate the defect this way, but why would you want to eliminate some of the better genetics from a breed because of a defect? I am sure that when these folks bred that cow to Double Vision, the goal was to get a calf that would perform well on the show road, DV does that. They'll get her tested, and breed her accordingly. TH and PHA status really does not have "everything" to do with one being good. If you do not want to "risk" buying a carrier, then don't do it. It can be controlled, just use your head when breeding.

 

[buckwild]

Not only does it limit your breeding opportunities, but I'm not sure why you wouldn't want to eradicate PHA/TH from the Shorthorn breed. Good luck selling heifers out of her.

 

[Hofstatter Farms]

Not only does it limit your breeding opportunities, but I'm not sure why you wouldn't want to eradicate PHA/TH from the Shorthorn breed. Good luck selling heifers out of her.

Number one TH and PHA isn't just in the shorthorn breed, it is in about all breeds. So I want to know how it limits your breeding opportunities, from what your saying we should shoot all the th and pha carriers so then would you breed a clean cow to a dirty bull? i would if the bull is good enough! There is absolutely no problem at all selling a TH or PHA carrier heifers, just breed them to a clean bull. The other thing I don't care if the heifer is a carrier for every genetic defect ever thought of if she is good then she is good, period. For every one of you that think genetic defects are major problems then you don't know anything about gentics, you just need to know what to breed to and what not to breed to. The best bull ever and the best shorthorn cow of all times are both carriers and both still being used generating anyone using them money, and that is what it is all about.

 

[knabe]

For every one of you that think genetic defects are major problems then you don't know anything about gentics

i don't remember that showing up as a question in genetics. 

perhaps it's not a problem in gentics.

 

[TMJ Show Cattle]

Showman Q well said and correctly I might add. Get ready for the do gooders that are the animal TH Police.

 

[Gary]

DCC:

What is on the cow side?

 

[OLD WORLD SHORTIE]

DV calves are usually the best out of the gate, they seem to fall apart later in their development. I dont think its to bad to have some TH Genetics cause the defect does seem to add some eye appeal in the club calf market. But its not so good when you get a TH Positive calf and the cow never breeds back again because of a messed up cervix. But hey to each his own. I like this white heifer, and seems like she is well cared for, that to me seems to make all the difference.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Breed them clean.Whats wrong with clean ones that may have come from a TH female or Bull? NOTHING I am STILL seeing very good CLEAN hiefers out of th and worse damsor bulls. And in terms of eye appeal , natural thickness etc, they have an edge on some of the harder doing cattle clean or not. I wont throw away a good one who needs more milk either. Ive had ones like that non clubby and clubby-I used bulls like Woodside Unique Profit who was an absolute beast out of DCC Prophet and a Hubs cow. Didnt miss a beat. O0