justintime
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We have been using some semen from some Shorthorn bulls from the past that we have always considered to have qualities that would work in most any era. Here are two of the bulls selling in our Sun Country Bull and Female sale on March 27th. Coyote has posted pics of some bulls he is selling this year that are sired by bulls from the past. He certainly should post them in this thread as well if he wants to do so.
1) HC Aussie Flag 303A ET x - sire Mandalong Super Flag. Dam : Six S Leah 55L
Super Flag was imported from Australia to Canada in the early 70s and he was a breed changing sire as he helped the breed regain some acceptance again in a time when the exotics were having their hay day in the industry. This bull is soggy, thick and soft made and is also super sound. His dam has been an outstanding producer here. She has produced 328 grade 1 embryos and we are almost sold out. She has offspring in 8 countries now. Her natural calves have topped 3 of our sales so far. He had a 90 lb BW unassisted. Non appendix
2) HC Absolute 57A ET X
Absolute is sired by Cumberland Gay Lad and his dam is HC FL Elsie's J-Lo 3T ET x.
Gay Lad was used in the Bonnyview and South Plain herds here in Saskatchewan in the early 70s and he sired numerous test station high gainers and high sellers. His daughters were thick and good uddered. Gay Lad was born in 1966, so these genetics are from some of the foundation polled cattle in the breed. J-Lo 3T is a full sister to our Elsie's Jade donor ( who is pictured in the thread " one of our Junior herd sires". Absolute was the lightest BW bull born here in 2013 at 68 lbs. He is smaller framed but super correct and easy fleshing. I think he could be a good choice for heifers and for adding fleshing ability to most anything.
Both Super Flag and Gay Lad were homozygous polled so there is a good chance these youngsters are as well. Both are smooth polled.
To me, I think these bulls prove that there are some very useful genetics from the past. But there are also some sires from the past that were bad then and they are bad now. I would suggest that if you want to use older genetics, study your lessons and make sure they have something to offer today.
1) HC Aussie Flag 303A ET x - sire Mandalong Super Flag. Dam : Six S Leah 55L
Super Flag was imported from Australia to Canada in the early 70s and he was a breed changing sire as he helped the breed regain some acceptance again in a time when the exotics were having their hay day in the industry. This bull is soggy, thick and soft made and is also super sound. His dam has been an outstanding producer here. She has produced 328 grade 1 embryos and we are almost sold out. She has offspring in 8 countries now. Her natural calves have topped 3 of our sales so far. He had a 90 lb BW unassisted. Non appendix
2) HC Absolute 57A ET X
Absolute is sired by Cumberland Gay Lad and his dam is HC FL Elsie's J-Lo 3T ET x.
Gay Lad was used in the Bonnyview and South Plain herds here in Saskatchewan in the early 70s and he sired numerous test station high gainers and high sellers. His daughters were thick and good uddered. Gay Lad was born in 1966, so these genetics are from some of the foundation polled cattle in the breed. J-Lo 3T is a full sister to our Elsie's Jade donor ( who is pictured in the thread " one of our Junior herd sires". Absolute was the lightest BW bull born here in 2013 at 68 lbs. He is smaller framed but super correct and easy fleshing. I think he could be a good choice for heifers and for adding fleshing ability to most anything.
Both Super Flag and Gay Lad were homozygous polled so there is a good chance these youngsters are as well. Both are smooth polled.
To me, I think these bulls prove that there are some very useful genetics from the past. But there are also some sires from the past that were bad then and they are bad now. I would suggest that if you want to use older genetics, study your lessons and make sure they have something to offer today.
