Flushing options??

[dn91]

Have a cow that needs frame bone and body. She is a clubby bred cow but I want to take her back to take her back to a maternal bull (thinking Simmental and Charolais) and looking for suggestions. Have thought of chopper and firewater but don't think there bring enough body to the table. She is good hopped and good fronted and really stout and hairy and thf. Thanks

 

[OH Breeder]

She needs frame bone? She needs size?
You say she is stout.
Macho makes nice females. Irish Whiskey depending on her base makes nice females. Northern Improvement.

 

[BTDT]

What has worked on her in the past?

In my opinion, if you have to "ask and experiment" on what bull to flush her to, you shouldn't be flushing her. (Keep in mind, I am pretty conservative!)

 

[jbzdad]

look at yellow repo... Genetics horizons..Black Hereford ranch

 

[Gargan]

look at yellow repo... Genetics horizons..Black Hereford ranch

He could work for you

 

[dn91]

What has worked on her in the past?

In my opinion, if you have to "ask and experiment" on what bull to flush her to, you shouldn't be flushing her. (Keep in mind, I am pretty conservative!)

I don't think that at all, I simply don't know every bull out there and how ever bull breeds, isn't this what this forum is for to ask suggestions and get feedback from other people. Maybe someone else has a cow similar is type to mine and has tried something that has or hasn't worked in the past. 

 

[Gargan]

What is your cows pedigree?

 

[KAD Genetics]

Had and seen some nice heifers out of chopper on heatwave influenced cows would spend the extra money and get sexed
If I was going to flush

 

[dn91]

She is a shiver x heat wave. She is thf

 

[Gargan]

Troubadour has been working well on hw influence but not sure how much middle he'll add. Maternal perfection calves will start falling soon and he could be an option. You might wanna consider a horn bull like exile too.

 

[Clubby24]

Yellow jacket no question

 

[Warrior10]

What has worked on her in the past?

In my opinion, if you have to "ask and experiment" on what bull to flush her to, you shouldn't be flushing her. (Keep in mind, I am pretty conservative!)

I agree. Personally wouldn't take the risk of spending the high $$$ flushing, transplanting, receipts if I hadn't found a mating that had worked in the past. I like I said, just my opinion, good luck with what you choose. Going off pedigree alone, which is hard, I would go with an Irish Whiskey influenced bull or I-80 if she has enough guts.

 

[Cattle Cards]

I know you've gotten a lot of suggestions but I don't know that all of those bulls will add the frame you think you need.  What is the frame score of you cow?  As far as Simmental, I would recommend 3C Macho, Built Right, or even the percentage bull Backlash (full brother to Whiplash).  All should give you the size along with the maternal traits. 

 

[Barry Farms]

I know you've gotten a lot of suggestions but I don't know that all of those bulls will add the frame you think you need.  What is the frame score of you cow?  As far as Simmental, I would recommend 3C Macho, Built Right, or even the percentage bull Backlash (full brother to Whiplash).  All should give you the size along with the maternal traits.

There is a ranch that owns Whiplash's mother. White Rooster Cattle Co., they have a good many bulls out of this cow and they are all decent looking IMO

http://www.whiteroostercattle.com/sires.html

I will state that I am not affiliated with this ranch I just like the genetic line up of some of their bulls.

 

[Cattle Cards]

Thank you to Barry Farms for sharing that information on White Rooster Cattle Company.  That cow has produced some nice bulls.  I'm intrigued.  I'm looking at Lash Out.  A THF PHAF son of Heat Wave and out of the C17 cow?!

 

[Mainevent]

I think White Rooster has an account on here. Haven't seen a post by them in a while but they did.

 

[Mark H]

If you are looking to improve frame and bone you are essentially looking at using performance bulls not calving ease bulls.  Just keep that in mind.
For a Charolais I would look at SVY Pilgrim from Genex.  He is performance bull and is a frame 7.7 with lots of bone and guts.
A would consider using a full fleckvieh on you cow.  here is a high performance bull that will add bone and guts from Yankee Creek Ranch: http://www.yankeecreekranch.com/bulls/neutron.html
These are not suggestion you would usually get on this site.  If you want to try some well proven performance genetics that will  do what you want in either breed here are two examples