Focus of Breed Program (Let's Start Over - With Photos)

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chambero

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Let's try this again.  Before we all started taking potshots, I had posted that our operations was focused primarily on black, commercial cattle targeted for replacements and feedlot calves with show steers/heifers for my sons as a second priority.  We don't mess with trying to raise any bulls. 

The scenario for our part of the world [(North central Texas) in the Wichita Falls area specifically] - nearly everyone is fall calving (Sep-Dec), cows/calves are raised on native/improved native pastures (natural and improved varieties of blue stems, side oats, etc), and nobody weans till early summer.  You've got calves being raised by mommas for their first nine months of life.  This practice is very widespread and it sounds like quite different most other parts of the country.  Really, its the low input deal at work - in the winter we feed anywhere from 2-5 lbs of cottonseed or corn cake (20+% protein) per pair and that's it. No hay, no nothing.  The calves you'll see in these photos have never seen creep feed except for a two week period around Christmas when we hauled some into a feeder when we had a bunch of snow and couldn't get in every day to feed the mommas.

Here are photos to back that up to show you what we've got. 

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One my best cows.  She's out of a Cunia son (Cunia x Foreplay's Dam) and a commercial angus cow.  She is five and a half, has her fifth calf in her, and photo was taken yesterday. She's in good condition because her calf was weaned back at the end of Feb for show.  Her last two calves have been out of Yellow Jacket - the steer we showed last year and a heifer we are showing this year (see heifer photo below). 

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Here is a young show oriented cow that I've got a lot of hope for.  She is a Friction out of a Cunia grandaughter similar to the cow above.  She is about to wean her second calf (out of an OCC Anchor son).  She didn't stick to AI for her second calf (one chance) and instead calved in late Dec.  Her first calf was a Rocky Balboa.  We weaned him and prepared to show him, but got a little worried he was too tight moving and sent him to the feedlot.  There he gained 2.48 lbs per day and hung a 848 lb, 17.7 inch ribeye, Yield Grade 1 Select carcass.  Our perceived movement problems turned out not to be a feedlot problem.

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Not that great of a photo to do her justice, but another Cunia grandaughter out of an Angus cow.  A lot of people think she's the best looking cow we've got.  She bred back late her second calf and has never caught back up enough to AI.  She's got a real nice heifer calf out of a Hannibal son this year, but I didn't catch a photo of it.

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We have two Charolais-X cows on the place and they like to stick together.  The one closest to the camera is the one in my Avatar.  Her calf to the right side is a Sep 23 steer out of a Hannibal son.  Not quite enough rear end to show.  Her calf last year was identically bred.  He was too young to show (a Nov), but gained 3.17 lbs/day in the feedlot and hung a 841 lb, YG 3, Choice carcass.

The calf right behind her is a George heifer out of the other Charolais cow in the back.  One of the best brood cow prospects I think I've ever had - she's 3/4 blood Charolais.  She is as feminine, stout, soggy, and correct as I can make one.  I had one other George calf this year that got sold as a show steer.  Her momma is the "money-makingest" cow I have.  Last year's calf was out of Salute (he came out black, but that's what he was unless I grabbed the wrong straw which I doubt).  He was her only calf not to get shown, but he made the feedlot more money than any other calf we sent them.  He gained 3.18 lbs/day and hung a 973 lb, YG 2 Choice carcass that grossed more money than any other carcass from our herd.

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This calf in the middle is out of a Meyer son (from Collins) and an Angus cow.  Just a big ol stout, 3/4 Angus-1/4 Simi feedlot steer.  His momma raised a placing Angus steer at Fort Worth for us last year.

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Just some cows and calves.  The baldy is a Sunseeker.

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Just cows and calves.  Yellow tags are first calf heifers and a bunch of the rest in this pasture are 10-15 year old grannies.

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You can get an idea of the kind of grass we are blessed with this year in this photo (and a few too many flies).





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Just a view of one of our pastures with the cows starting to head toward us.


 

justintime

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First off, I have to say that I love the first two black cows as well as the red cow you pictured. Those are the type of cows that I think can work most anywhere, regardless of environment and regardless of the sector of the industry you are in. The two Char cows appear to be hard working momma's as well.  You can't always tell exactly which one is best from the pictures, but the first cow followed closely by the second black cow, make my mouth water. They are very good rips!

Were all these pictures taken yesterday? If they were, I am a bit surprised how much hair some of the cows still have for being in Texas. I live about 1300 miles virtually straight north of you and I think our cows are shed out more than yours, if these pictures were indeed taken yesterday. Maybe I missed something your wrote.,..

Your country could pass of the country I live in as well. It looks pretty flat and open... just like here.  Good pictures!
 

chambero

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All photos were yesterday.  Don't know we still haven't shed out.      We usually do.  We only have two cows (kadabras) that have trouble slicking off.
 

AStar

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You have got some good looking cattle and they have performance and carcass. I wish I could go with out feeding hay that would save me a fortune. Do you feed any liquid?
 

chambero

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Nope, just the high protein cubes.  That's the way everyone runs them in our are.  We do stock pretty low - about 1 cow per 10-12 acres.
 

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Nice pics, Chambero!!  I like this version of the "Focus" topic much better than the last!!  Wow, that first black cow is  a rip---I really like her!!

Good looking herd overall!!
 

justintime

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Chambero......... actually, I took another long look at the cow in the first picture. I really don't think she is the right kind for your conditions. I think you should get rid of her.... but I would appreciate it if you would let me know when and where you are going to do this. haha
 
She is one good cow beasty!
 

chambero

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I guess I left out the important part.  We haven't bought a female since 1998.  That first cows momma is an RA Brown Angus cow my wife and I bought as a $550 bred heifer in 1996 when things were a little cheap.
 

CAB

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Great set of cows!! Thanks for the pictures and taking the time to talk about them Chambero. Brent
 

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Chambero, You've got some really, really nice looking females . You've also got a lot to be proud of what you've done with raising all your own momma cows .
You've also brought up a good point with the grass pic. I aiways amazed at the difference of the quality & quantity of grass in the different parts of the country. There is even a difference here in TN from the east to the west end. I was in SC last month & saw a big difference . Not saying ones bad & ones good , just saying that's why it truly takes different types of cattle for the most part to work in the different parts of the country. Once again outstanding looking group of cattle. <party>
 

ZNT

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I'm looking forward to Saturday when I come out to help work calves.  They have changed a lot since I saw them last.  Your grass looks awesome, and last nights rain will only help.  You truly do have a great herd and a great set of genetics put together.  There is nothing more satisfying than to know that your herd is made up of generation after generation of your own genetic choices and hard work.
 

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Chambero, really nice set of functional, efficient cows.  I am amazed that you are able to run them without any hay and that you have collected all the carcass data on your calves.  Thanks for sharing the photos and information about your program.
 

ZNT

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It was great to get out and see how the calves have come along since breeding season Robert.  They should get along very well in the feedlot, and you should be very excited about the depth of protential replacement heifers.  I don't have enough fingers to count the number of heifers that I think will go on to make GREAT cows.

Your post inspired me to do a similar blog on my website.  Nothing fancy, but it sure sums our operation up.  www.zntcattle.com
 

loveRedcows

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Thanks for the great pictures & editorial.  It's so good to see them in working clothes & boy do I wish I had grass like that. 
 

Chap

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Great Set of cows and calves Chambero, thanks for sharing your goals and proof.  I would love to see some more entries along this line on the thread
 
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