Ft. worth grand steer

[4S-shannon]

does anybody know how the grand a reserve steer where out off? and where they got them?

 

[BIGTEX]

From a steer jocky and from  heatwave or son.

 

[j3cattleco]

Dr. Mike Mimms raised the grand steer he was a milkman.  Tracy Haymes sold him.  Reserve was sold by Eric Drager and Jay Carr.

 

[Joe Boy]

The judge talked about having a feedlot full of these kind of calves.  Calves were too heavy for the feedlot.  Good calves but larger than what most buyers want.  They will not fit into the box.

 

[sunny]

How much did they weigh?  What would you estimate their frame size to be?

 

[ZNT]

The judge talked about having a feedlot full of these kind of calves.  Calves were too heavy for the feedlot.  Good calves but larger than what most buyers want.  They will not fit into the box.

If the 153# birth weight is actually true, I would be pretty safe in saying that there isn't a commercial rancher out there would want to produce a calf like this one, let alone a whole feedlot full of them.

On the brighter side, there would be a lot more large animal vets that would be making a pretty good living by just doing c-sections.

 

[chambero]

On the feedlot deal, the feedlot we worl with in Nebraska doesnt kill calves till they are around 1325.  I think ideal size now is considered just under 1350.  Ive seen those numbers from other feedlots also.  But most still want them black.

 

[Freddy]

I think Chambero is right about feedlots an packers don't want little cattle an blacks are very popular, the good ones..Article the other day about Angus  said that just cause they are black don't mean there good cattle any more .  Also mentioned that cattle that were marketed as Angus  ,many of those are considered to be terminal cattle ...I guess the only thing  I get from that is terminal cattle are not usually known to make great cows ...

 

[DCC show cattle]

Birthweight has nothin to do with that comment and if he has a feedlot full of those i need to start shoppin in feedlots haha

 

[rackranch]

He used these words a lot through out the entire steer show not just for the grand steer.  It was a comment I heard him use often and think it is just something he likes to say when talking reasons.  Kinda like a heifer judge saying ''I would like to have a pasture full of these''.  In my opinion the most important thing he said when taking the pair of smokies is ''These are the kind that the industry is looking for''. Now I'm not from the North but if you have sat in a sale barn in Texas lately his comment is spot on...

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The judge talked about having a feedlot full of these kind of calves.  Calves were too heavy for the feedlot.  Good calves but larger than what most buyers want.  They will not fit into the box.

 

[bart]

Rackranch, we were the bunch on the other side making noise when she got pulled and than repulled (clapping). We are so proud of you guys <beer>

 

[showsteerdlux]

He used these words a lot through out the entire steer show not just for the grand steer.  It was a comment I heard him use often and think it is just something he likes to say when talking reasons.  Kinda like a heifer judge saying ''I would like to have a pasture full of these''.  In my opinion the most important thing he said when taking the pair of smokies is ''These are the kind that the industry is looking for''. Now I'm not from the North but if you have sat in a sale barn in Texas lately his comment is spot on...

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The judge talked about having a feedlot full of these kind of calves.  Calves were too heavy for the feedlot.  Good calves but larger than what most buyers want.  They will not fit into the box.

Same trend is happening in the east. The buyers are paying just as much if not more for black nosed smokes than blacks.

 

[ruhtram]

Where could I find pic's of these steers?

 

[rackranch]

Thank you, we had a blast...you really had to travel well for the judge and he liked  our steer on the move (clapping)

Rackranch, we were the bunch on the other side making noise when she got pulled and than repulled (clapping). We are so proud of you guys <beer>

 

[fed_champions]

The picture of the grand steer is in the topic, ft worth steer show

 

[4S-shannon]

I liked the reserve steer but the hereford was alot better and grand should have stayed grand he was the best steer there. I judge and a true feedlot finished steer by Dr. Skaggs is 1200 to 1450 so he did fit that but i did notice he said " i would like a feed lot full of these", but i think overall he judged really well.

 

[cookcattleco]

Anybody know the dams to these steers. And what the sire was on the reserve?

 

[hamburgman]

Where my brother works it is rare for them to sell cattle under 1500, last year they had a load that averaged over 1700 and that has been the trend around me.

 

[Sammy]

I was just looking at some reports on NE fat cattle - and noticed the weekly average live weights from Dec 10 to present generally go from 1420 to 1460 - they prefer bigger carcass weights as it lowers per unit processing costs in the plant - just don't want rea too big or Y3 or less - red meat yield is the business we are in - and getting done on less corn - sooner or later the university guys judging these shows will get the memo and start using a different kind than the square made, big-boned, chunks- I do admit that those smokes were cool to look at - but not not practical to reproduce on a commercial basis and we all know that -

 

[Telos]

As for that Hereford steer... Cattle are distinguished by markings in the commercial industry and it should be exactly the same at a steer show. That calf was very much marked like a Hereford. It really doesn't matter what his DNA shows, for these steers are not registered. My problem is when other Hereford marked steers get thrown in the crossbred class. I think there are biased  decisions in many cases. Selected panels should only be required to classify by markings and if they are polled for the polled breeds.