Show Heifer said:
knabe, please correct me if I am wrong, but there is NOTHING in our Constitution, or in our Bill of Rights, nor in any other legal document that says if an illegal has a baby in the US, they are automatically citizens.
It is my understanding, that this is just the way it is "understood and done" and has nothing to do with the law. Correct?
it's not in them, but there was case law i can't remember when, where they allowed it. it should be overthrown.
basically what the democrats are doing is pushing all this legislation through in a strategic manner to get votes in november. the margin is so thin, they need 40 million votes to retain their majority.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/congress/Reid_s-immigration-push-vital-to-his-reelection-hopes-91725084.html
america is free to do whatever they want with the constitution with votes. america, or anyone for that matter is free to overthrow their government with violence as we did with the british and have many nations before and since, witness the palestinians. there really is no concept of legality with human behavior. we weigh the cost benefit for our actions. laws are merely predictors of those analysis.
any race based policy is racist, even if it benefits non-whites. of course no one can understand this since whites must be dead. it's really all about birth rates and nothing else. it always determines everything.
notice that EVERY policy is about getting reelected and guaranteed outcomes, never a level playing field.
end all subsidies now and make a tax system based on taxing at the point of revenue and nothing else.
as with immigration debate, the slavery debate rarely has enough in depth analysis or facts. here's something from the, shock, new york times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/23/opinion/23gates.html
"While we are all familiar with the role played by the United States and the European colonial powers like Britain, France, Holland, Portugal and Spain, there is very little discussion of the role Africans themselves played. And that role, it turns out, was a considerable one, especially for the slave-trading kingdoms of western and central Africa. These included the Akan of the kingdom of Asante in what is now Ghana, the Fon of Dahomey (now Benin), the Mbundu of Ndongo in modern Angola and the Kongo of today’s Congo, among several others."
turns out there is slavery in africa still. turns out that some people were against slavery in the US. i'd never heard of that before. some people died fighting to free the slaves. turns out some were white. who knew.
turns out some africans welcomed slavery as a means of protection both in africa and elsewhere. course that doesn't fit the template and i'm not advocating that position, just stating what people did to survive.