JbarL
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knabe said:
Interesting reading on the elections
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BIGTEX
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can only hope your sons recover is healthy and swift.....your situation with youi and your wife having to change your lively hood for medical bills and insurance is exactly why i believe that all folks should have health care........
employed black 22 yr old. good in school, responsible with sex, took out student loans and graduated. great!....rewarded how???...there are 10's of thousands of kids doing it every year......jbarl
Thank you for asking about my son, he is great. He went in w/ pneumonia over a year ago and you can't even tell he was sick. We are very blessed. We did have over 50,000 dollars in out of pocket expenses. Our families, friends and church helped far and above anything I could have imagined, but I don't want Govt. insurance. We did what we had to do for my family. BTW since my wife has a stable job w/ insurance, profit sharing and 401K, I just got a job in the Gas and Oil Industry. Will this make me more Conservative????
About a productive 22 yr old and the 10's of thousands other kids that graduate from college. Student loans aren't enough? Should these newly graduated Professionals be burdened w/ more taxes??? Why do anything but sit on your butt and let everyone take care of everything for you.
employed black 22 yr old. good in school, responsible with sex, took out student loans and graduated. great!....rewarded how???...there are 10's of thousands of kids doing it every year......jbarl
Thank you for asking about my son, he is great. He went in w/ pneumonia over a year ago and you can't even tell he was sick. We are very blessed. We did have over 50,000 dollars in out of pocket expenses. Our families, friends and church helped far and above anything I could have imagined, but I don't want Govt. insurance. We did what we had to do for my family. BTW since my wife has a stable job w/ insurance, profit sharing and 401K, I just got a job in the Gas and Oil Industry. Will this make me more Conservative????
About a productive 22 yr old and the 10's of thousands other kids that graduate from college. Student loans aren't enough? Should these newly graduated Professionals be burdened w/ more taxes??? Why do anything but sit on your butt and let everyone take care of everything for you.
knabe
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JbarL said:
socialist recipients and demanders give what in return for their service? certainly they are not putting their lives on the line and deploying 6 months every two years?
so, if we have no more water and we give more and more of it to fish, is it in the general welfare interest to import the equivalent populations of canada and mexico by 2050 through legal and illegal immigration? or do we just need them to vote for more socialism. (question mark again left off because it's not a question)
i'm having trouble understanding where personal contribution is in the general welfare. it seems as if we are rewarding receiving the transition to a social services economy. how is that in the general welfare interest of the country.
CA is in debt 20 billion and without a budget for almost 3 months. this does not include unfunded liabilities, ie retirement, health benefits of employees, health benefits of illegals and their education etc.
so, why don't we just get rid of money and everyone contribute. the same LOSERS will still be LOSERS, but with communism, it will be even more costly as there is no disincentive to not being a LOSER.
LET LOSERS LOSE. WE WEAN CALVES, WEAN LOSERS.
ALSO, DOES BEING A LOSER ENTITLE LOSERS TO MORE SUBSIDY? I GUESS IF ONE WAS A LOSER FOR TWENTY YEARS, WE SHOULD GIVE THEM A PENSION.
knabe
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ultimate consequence of allowing losers to win.
Mamphela Ramphele’s attempt to give the so-called employment equity system some credibility should be deemed a failure.
The damage has already been done and the civil service, public healthcare, the railways, ports and road infrastructure bear testimony to the insidious effects of racial preference on South Africa.
The current system of race preferences in favour of blacks cannot be reformed — it can only be abolished.
Employment equity is but an Orwellian euphemism denying whites employment, as well as educational and business opportunities, on the grounds of race.
The ANC may be more subtle than Zanu-PF, but the ultimate goal is the same — getting rid of whites altogether. Most whites, English and Afrikaans, have seen the writing on the wall. (in america, it IS successful people)
They have either left the country or have become self-employed, waging a constant struggle for survival in small businesses run from homes and garages without pension schemes, medical aid or access to capital, which is largely reserved for blacks.
According to economist Mike Schussler, 50% of all white males are self-employed. It is a staggering statistic.
Not only are whites made to feel distinctly unwelcome at government departments, but banks and other private institutions have also transformed to the extent that one hardly sees a white face behind a counter. In fact, we would need an affirmative action policy for whites just to persuade large corporations to employ them at all, especially young ones, given the anti-white ethos that oozes from the very pores of this amazingly violent, corrupt society.
Whites lacking in entrepreneurial and technical skills have been condemned to poverty and despair, despite being literate and hard-working.
On the other hand, one-third of all municipal councillors controlling budgets in the billions are illiterate.
To create wealth, one needs skills.
To loot the wealth of others does not require any skill, except being ruthless and arrogant.
The race-proud Africans of Zimbabwe and South Africa have shown themselves to possess an abundant capacity for both. — Dan Roodt, via e-mail
here's more subsidies we can do without.
http://www.rand.org/news/press/2008/09/08/index.html
Hickman and co-author Marika Suttorp of RAND found that 73 percent of the previously deported immigrants were rearrested within a year of jail release, compared to 32 percent of the other deportable immigrants. Previously deported immigrants also were arrested more frequently, with 28 percent rearrested three or more times within a year of release, compared to 7 percent among deportable immigrants who had not previously been expelled from the United States.
The RAND study excluded immigrants who were sent from Los Angeles jails to state prisons or were transferred to the custody of immigration officials. if they included them, it would be worse.
when our elected officials are gunned down, we actually have become what we subsidize.
Councilman shot - Fairfield stunned
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/02/MNEK12MJSP.DTL
here's more subsidy.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_10407035?source=email
when you are dead, you can't subsidize anything. the womb, the ultimate weapon. (a quote from mohammed and aztlan proponents)
Mamphela Ramphele’s attempt to give the so-called employment equity system some credibility should be deemed a failure.
The damage has already been done and the civil service, public healthcare, the railways, ports and road infrastructure bear testimony to the insidious effects of racial preference on South Africa.
The current system of race preferences in favour of blacks cannot be reformed — it can only be abolished.
Employment equity is but an Orwellian euphemism denying whites employment, as well as educational and business opportunities, on the grounds of race.
The ANC may be more subtle than Zanu-PF, but the ultimate goal is the same — getting rid of whites altogether. Most whites, English and Afrikaans, have seen the writing on the wall. (in america, it IS successful people)
They have either left the country or have become self-employed, waging a constant struggle for survival in small businesses run from homes and garages without pension schemes, medical aid or access to capital, which is largely reserved for blacks.
According to economist Mike Schussler, 50% of all white males are self-employed. It is a staggering statistic.
Not only are whites made to feel distinctly unwelcome at government departments, but banks and other private institutions have also transformed to the extent that one hardly sees a white face behind a counter. In fact, we would need an affirmative action policy for whites just to persuade large corporations to employ them at all, especially young ones, given the anti-white ethos that oozes from the very pores of this amazingly violent, corrupt society.
Whites lacking in entrepreneurial and technical skills have been condemned to poverty and despair, despite being literate and hard-working.
On the other hand, one-third of all municipal councillors controlling budgets in the billions are illiterate.
To create wealth, one needs skills.
To loot the wealth of others does not require any skill, except being ruthless and arrogant.
The race-proud Africans of Zimbabwe and South Africa have shown themselves to possess an abundant capacity for both. — Dan Roodt, via e-mail
here's more subsidies we can do without.
http://www.rand.org/news/press/2008/09/08/index.html
Hickman and co-author Marika Suttorp of RAND found that 73 percent of the previously deported immigrants were rearrested within a year of jail release, compared to 32 percent of the other deportable immigrants. Previously deported immigrants also were arrested more frequently, with 28 percent rearrested three or more times within a year of release, compared to 7 percent among deportable immigrants who had not previously been expelled from the United States.
The RAND study excluded immigrants who were sent from Los Angeles jails to state prisons or were transferred to the custody of immigration officials. if they included them, it would be worse.
when our elected officials are gunned down, we actually have become what we subsidize.
Councilman shot - Fairfield stunned
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/02/MNEK12MJSP.DTL
here's more subsidy.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_10407035?source=email
when you are dead, you can't subsidize anything. the womb, the ultimate weapon. (a quote from mohammed and aztlan proponents)
JbarL
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knabe said:
far be it from me to consider anyone a loser...that would only be an opinion based on what i consider a winner is.....money?...happiness?...job context?.....contentment?....some might think that those hwo didnt believe in god was a loser... some believe that those who do ar e losers....some believe if yoiu dont have a job your a loser...some think everone at the dnc are losers...some think that everyone at the rnc are loseres......some think if you " could have made more of your self" your a loser....some think crack heads are losers.....some think politicans are losers....some fjolks think other perople are losers because of who they married....or who they should have married.....some floks think that spending 10 /bill a month with our money and our next generations "debt" burden on a war and rebuilding iraq's society, schools, and protecting there right to vote,and paying for there armies to be built and supproting there new civil war needs and all the costs associated with it, .... replacing there hospitals and rebuilding there infastructure ...are losers....and some think there winners....i feel like a loser when i got someones hand in my pocket .......while there tryin' to divorce me....taken' there half and leavn' me to fend for myself....jbarl
The fundamental flaw with the left's ideaology is that they believe that successful people are only successful because they won life's lottery and are just lucky. What they don't realize is that 99% of people with money, homes, cars, a good show steer, health insurance, etc got that from hard work and being responsible. Food, shelter, and health insurance are not rights. Everyone has the right pursue them though. If we give these things to people they don't have the incentive to work in order to acquire them. This is hugely counterproductive for the country as a whole.
There are three types of people that are Democrats:
The super rich that inherited the money-
They have so much money and they didn't have to work for it. So they vote for entitlements because it won't affect their lifestyle and they didn't work for their money so they are not near as attached to it nor do they appreciate it as much.
The "guilty" middle class-
They work hard and have a decent lifestyle, but they vote democrat because they feel guilty about their success and voting democrat is an easy way to make them feel better about themselves because they think they are helping someone that way
The lazy poor-
They vote democrat because they don't pay taxes anyway and who doesn't want something for nothing. They aren't intelligent enough to understand things like fiscal policy, basic economics and inflation. They just keep voting for the guy that will give them the things they are too lazy to work for themselves.
Government at its best is a necessary evil. Government at its worst is an intolerable one.
Natural selection is a greatly underutilized practice.
To all democrats out there- The greatest atrocities of history were all done in the name of the "common good." Individualism isn't responsible for nearly as much death and destruction as people who were motivated by the common good. Think holocaust, communist russia, spanish inquisition.
There are three types of people that are Democrats:
The super rich that inherited the money-
They have so much money and they didn't have to work for it. So they vote for entitlements because it won't affect their lifestyle and they didn't work for their money so they are not near as attached to it nor do they appreciate it as much.
The "guilty" middle class-
They work hard and have a decent lifestyle, but they vote democrat because they feel guilty about their success and voting democrat is an easy way to make them feel better about themselves because they think they are helping someone that way
The lazy poor-
They vote democrat because they don't pay taxes anyway and who doesn't want something for nothing. They aren't intelligent enough to understand things like fiscal policy, basic economics and inflation. They just keep voting for the guy that will give them the things they are too lazy to work for themselves.
Government at its best is a necessary evil. Government at its worst is an intolerable one.
Natural selection is a greatly underutilized practice.
To all democrats out there- The greatest atrocities of history were all done in the name of the "common good." Individualism isn't responsible for nearly as much death and destruction as people who were motivated by the common good. Think holocaust, communist russia, spanish inquisition.
knabe
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JbarL said:
a loser is someone who won't play because the opposing 9 year old pitcher pitches too fast.
the left defines losers themselves by taking from winners and giving it to losers they define as someone who needs someone else's money.
losers are people who reinforce a decision making process shielded from consequences.
losers change the rules after the fact.
losers lose and don't change their actions and analyze their loss and even TRY to win.
we are creating losers at an astonishing rate.
losers, in general, are unaware of being a loser.
losers are more concerned about being offended being called a loser than they are changing and scream for money to reinforce losing.
losers are losers. let them lose, it's the fastest way to change behavior.
instead, what we are doing is treating winners like losers. since we are creating losers and no winners, at some point, there will be a more visible tipping point. losers are unaware investment is leaving america because their budget is infinite and winners put restraints on infinity with tax shelters, taking their money elsewhere, converting it into gold etc till losers, ie war, which is usually started by losers.
the list is infinite. lenin, pot, stalin, hitler, mao, hideki, some would say bush, but it is really hussein, and the losers of course will call bush a bigger loser than hussein. typical losers.
JbarL
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some folks call 16/18 yr olds that go 0 -10..... losers.......i'm more of the "get em next year...great job guys"... kinda guy i guess.......no matter how good the other teams were.....every week 1/2 of the best professional nfl football teams in america ...lose....not many folks quit watching pro or college ball becouae there team loses any particular weekend.........some stick with there team defending them week after week ( holocost, russian communists,residents of the spanish inquistion)...year after year..... ... losing season after losing season......and some times they pick another team....i'm pickin' a new team this year. 
............( quiters are losers to some as well, i suppose ).....i graduated from a school that now has a 30% academic ineligable ratio which disqualifies them from band/football/ basketball/debate/ect.......cause the " "winners" running the system deem them "losers"....so our young are wearing there "loser" uniforms given to them by some real "smart" "winners" already......they could go 0-10 this year.....they had 19 kids in the band last year....this year they don't have a band........how many kids are academicaly ineligalbe in your alls local high schools ?? how many were there in your graduating year???......we all probally dont know cause they didnt have " winners" back tthen tellin us that the losers needed pointed out and stifilied strarting when they start public funded school. so if we're stuck with a generation with a high percentage of "losers", they got it honestly....... used to be a football coaches job to field the best team he could.....and it was "his" job to motivate a football player, unmotivated for what ever reason, to bring out the kids talents that motivated him/her to accel in other areas....scolastic as well as preparing him for adult life....now its a bunch of superenindent "winners" job to isolate and lablel them. ...hows that workin out for everone? is it getting easier to spot the losers ???....once we get em all labeled and counted then what's the plan to do with em??? maybe we can go back to seperate bathrooms and seats on the bus for em......take away there rights to vote?? or own property?....losers surely dont deserve those same rights as us winners do.....it makes my heart sink to think of someone reading this and there kid has been put in this position by todays society....what do you tell a kid when they cant do something there good at ....cause they dont come up to the "winners" level at somthing else........its real important to some people to surround themselves with only " winners"...and impress on others what it takes to be a "winner"...sounds like a line in the dirt to me....i think a winner is the one that wouldnt mind sittin on the bus with any of em".....jbarl
............( quiters are losers to some as well, i suppose ).....i graduated from a school that now has a 30% academic ineligable ratio which disqualifies them from band/football/ basketball/debate/ect.......cause the " "winners" running the system deem them "losers"....so our young are wearing there "loser" uniforms given to them by some real "smart" "winners" already......they could go 0-10 this year.....they had 19 kids in the band last year....this year they don't have a band........how many kids are academicaly ineligalbe in your alls local high schools ?? how many were there in your graduating year???......we all probally dont know cause they didnt have " winners" back tthen tellin us that the losers needed pointed out and stifilied strarting when they start public funded school. so if we're stuck with a generation with a high percentage of "losers", they got it honestly....... used to be a football coaches job to field the best team he could.....and it was "his" job to motivate a football player, unmotivated for what ever reason, to bring out the kids talents that motivated him/her to accel in other areas....scolastic as well as preparing him for adult life....now its a bunch of superenindent "winners" job to isolate and lablel them. ...hows that workin out for everone? is it getting easier to spot the losers ???....once we get em all labeled and counted then what's the plan to do with em??? maybe we can go back to seperate bathrooms and seats on the bus for em......take away there rights to vote?? or own property?....losers surely dont deserve those same rights as us winners do.....it makes my heart sink to think of someone reading this and there kid has been put in this position by todays society....what do you tell a kid when they cant do something there good at ....cause they dont come up to the "winners" level at somthing else........its real important to some people to surround themselves with only " winners"...and impress on others what it takes to be a "winner"...sounds like a line in the dirt to me....i think a winner is the one that wouldnt mind sittin on the bus with any of em".....jbarl
knabe
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JbarL said:
there was 1 or 2 at most that didn't graduate high school.
now, not graduating seems a badge of honor in my town by both the latino and anglican communities.
what do we tell people who can't play pro sports because the are 0.5% not good enough? better have a backup plan.
no one's saying take away rights. no one has a right to victory they didn't earn. the idea of earning has been lost.
the line in the dirt is the starting line.
most good managers surround themselves with people better than them. they surround themselves with people they are better than in subordinate positions and motivate them to do better as opposed to keeping their skills in a static state. that's why they are winners. winners don't mind sitting with anyone.
imagine a world with no winners, no america. the losers would have won. that's who are losers, not the 0-10 football team, or the team brave enough to face the 9 year old who threw to fas.
sure would like to tip one with you jbarl.
JbarL
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your a good egg knabe......i appreciate swappipn' some paint with ya! jbarl
