Iowa Sale of Champ

[forcheyhawk]

I wondered if Transova purchased it out of necessity because HyVee had no plans to.  I had heard that HyVee definitely wasn't going to purchase a clone.  Who else bid on it?  Anyone know?

 

[diesel]

lookd like trans ova bidn against subsidiary of trans ova Lol got to make it look good <beer>

 

[mooch]

iowabeef you are my write in vote for president. It is a crock of horse apples. And Trans ova bought the grand steer so he couldnt be cloned again. Dont get in a big hug fest over the wonders of 4H with that deal.

You know Faber is Trans Ova right?

 

[forcheyhawk]

lookd like trans ova bidn against subsidiary of trans ova Lol got to make it look good <beer>

Yeah that's kind of what I was thinking too.  LOL  How long did it take for the 1st bid?  I heard quite a few people talking about the record price and I thought to myself if you really count that one since it's sort of like a buy back anyhow.

 

[Show Heifer]

I made mention that trans ova and fabers were the one and the same in my second post. I figured they put up a huge majority of the money.....

Cloned meat IS approved for consumption in the US, the problem is, it is not accepted widely. A huge difference between approved and accepted.

And regardless of who bought it, it had to go directly to slaughter, with security and an escort the total time. If fabers wanted to clone it, they pulled DNA on the calf long before the show.

 

[meat]

Iowa State works well with the exhibitors and you can get DNA off of your winning animal after the Sale of Champions. I'm not saying they did or didn't get DNA before the fair, I am just saying that it is possible for them to get it after the sale.

 

[OH Breeder]

I made mention that trans ova and fabers were the one and the same in my second post. I figured they put up a huge majority of the money.....

Cloned meat IS approved for consumption in the US, the problem is, it is not accepted widely. A huge difference between approved and accepted.

And regardless of who bought it, it had to go directly to slaughter, with security and an escort the total time. If fabers wanted to clone it, they pulled DNA on the calf long before the show.

I am not trying to be a smart ass, but I didin't know that cloned meat was being widely marketed? I am not sure that there are feedlots full of cloned animals. But I really don't know that for sure. It just doesn't seem practical to clone on large scale for feedlot cattle.

What is meat from a cloned sire considered?

I would say the country is more familiar with cloned dairy cows = milk more so than cloned steers.

Question- the Grand Champion was a clone? I am confused or was one or two of the top steers a clone?

 

[meat]

At the Sale of Champions it was announced that Faber's Grand Champion steer was indeed a clone.

 

[sue]

I agree with CAB. I think the winner should be responsible for raising some of the money. It teaches them good business skills and I would suspect, appreciate the money a bit more. Granted some kids will have an advantage over others (Ex. Fabers and trans ova) but I am willing to bet that many small town businesses would support their hometown winner as well!

ditto

 

[jbw]

May be a dumb ?? on my part, but, why would they want to clone the clone if they already have the original cell line??  Personally I thought their was better steers that would make better breeding peices.  Jorgenson steer or the Freeman steer for example. JMO

 

[oakbar]

The Iowa State Fair Board made an announcement at the Sale of Champions that no genetic material was being sold--only the meat.  This would eliminate any "punches", etc. being harvested after the sale.  They also read a statement that said no meat would be offered from the champion steer for commercial sale.

 

[yuppiecowboy]

lets not be naive people. If Kolhaus' can get the ovaries from a market heifer at the slaughterhouse, I think arrangements can be made to get an ear.

Fact is trends in the steer deal shift so subtly and quickly that I doubt by the time a re-clone would be at state fair his "kind" would still be in favor. We are supposed to be making genetic progress towards a better beast anyway, but I am not confident we are doing that. If I could wave a magic wand all of my cows would have gotten bred this year to bulls born in 1969, 1977, and 1988.

 

[meat]

The Iowa State Fair Board made an announcement at the Sale of Champions that no genetic material was being sold--only the meat.  This would eliminate any "punches", etc. being harvested after the sale.   They also read a statement that said no meat would be offered from the champion steer for commercial sale.

Yes it is the meat being sold at the sale. But it does not matter if your dad buys your steer or someone you have never meet before, you can still get DNA so you can clone your calf if you would like. The IFAA has paperwork you have to fill out before the sale just stating what you would like off of the calf. They ask every exhibitor during a meeting before the sale.