I have a bull and a heifer outta JSAR Titan and they seem pretty quiet. The bull calf looks to be pretty good, deep in his lower quarter and big topped. Both are out of purebred Shorthorn cows. The heifer has a really cool front end on her (the cow isn't very clean fronted). I like the Titan calves more than the Bismarck calves I have. I could probably get a picture of the two Titan calves here in the next few days