just bull pictures, nothing controversial

[OH Breeder]

Good bulls, all of them!

Like the rich, dark red colour.

I am not trying to side track the thread. But I too like the deep coloration in the bulls especially the red. Where does the "oranging" come from. You will see shorthorns sometimes get real orangey. I know that doesn't sound all that intelligent but I thought there was a way old timers said to keep your reds reds had something to do with using white bulls?
That is a solid set of bulls.

I have heard for most of my lifetime, that in order to get deep red colors and have them passed on to progeny, that there had to be a white bull used close up in the pedigree. I also have heard that the fastest way to correct color problems was to use a white bull. A white bull will correct the red and white spots markings. Today, I believe there are other factors that can create the light red coat color, especially in some appendix animals. I have noticed myself, that the darkest reds come from a sire that is a very even roan color, but I have nothing to base this on. For example, our herd sire Timeline seems to through very even colors. His reds are a deep red, his roans are a very even roan with few or no white markings and his white calves has so far all been white with red pigment in their ears and muzzles.

I also remember the old Scottish breeders saying that it was very hard to get a great breeding sire that was more than 4 generations from a white sire. I have no idea if there is anything to this or if it is another old wives tale.

I wondered how that works. I have one cow and all her calves always have that orange hue to them. I have always used roan bull. Thank you taking time to put your experience down.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Really good group-the Ramrod bull seems to be a very valuable breeding piece-How many cows do you run? And what do you breed hiefers to? O0

 

[turning grass into beef]

Great looking bulls.

What would you say the frame score is on your 12Y bull?

I think that 12Y would probably be around a frame score 6.5.

Good bulls, all of them!

Like the rich, dark red colour.

I am not trying to side track the thread. But I too like the deep coloration in the bulls especially the red. Where does the "oranging" come from. You will see shorthorns sometimes get real orangey. I know that doesn't sound all that intelligent but I thought there was a way old timers said to keep your reds reds had something to do with using white bulls?
That is a solid set of bulls.

I don't know if you were asking about the orangey color in general or the color of the 3Y bull in the pictures.  I don't know about "oranging" in general, but the color in the picture of 3Y is from the sun.  The sun was very bright when that picture was taken and the sun was behind clouds when the other pictures were taken.  The 3Y bull is just as dark red as the other red bulls.

Really good group-the Ramrod bull seems to be a very valuable breeding piece-How many cows do you run? And what do you breed hiefers to? O0

This year we are breeding about 150 mature cows and about 50 yearling heifers.  We are using 2 bulls on heifers.  One is son of Saskvalley Innovation 131X (who is sired by Saskvalley Pioneer 126P) and one is a son of Saskvalley Transport 399T that we purchased from SeannyT.

 

[turning grass into beef]

My brother thought that we should get a picture of 65X from this year so he went out and got this one.

 

[OH Breeder]

TGIB
No no, not saying your bulls are "orangey". In fact just the opposite. I like how deep red they are. But you I am sure have seen some of the shorthorns that can get that orange hue. I figured someone would know if that old tale was true about white bulls and color.

 

[Cabanha Santa Isabel - BR]

Really a good group. Perfect on many aspects.
The deep red color is great. Personally not wish red animals, but these bulls are able to work here. Deep, long, massive, masculine and good heads...rare in many herds through US.
They remember me half blood Lincoln Reds cross so commom here in Brazil on three decades last.
Regarding a white bull. I see many dark roan bulls sired by white ones, with great conformation.
Also remember a note, from Weebollabolla website, that describe that the best animals produced there were sied or grandsired by white bulls.
Maybe in some US herds a white bull will to be necessary soon!
Good pics. Congrats!  (clapping)

 

[Duncraggan]

Really like  12Y and 23W  (thumbsup)

The hindquarters of these specific two bulls, not to detract from the others though, is exceptional!

 

[aj]

red angus bull I bought WCR Detour 3101a

 

[librarian]

I really like the way the Canadian registry makes it easy to see the shared ancestors and inbreeding coefficients.  I wish the ASA showed the information that way. (or the AAA for that matter)
Thanks for putting up the pictures.  Roans rule.

 

[GM]

red angus bull I bought WCR Detour 3101a

he looks really good...are you using purebred shorthorns anymore?

 

[aj]

I am real heavy on the Red Angus side of the composite deal. I still have some purebred cows. Kinda aiming to produce Red Angus-Shorthorn composite bulls registered with the Shorthorn assn. Starting a small Red Angus herd. One heifer and two bulls so far. steerplanet grin

 

[ZNT]

Very good made, and very functional bulls.  I personally like the deep red solid color pattern.  I know it isn't what people choosing show and raise Shorthorns are looking for, but I think it would be a great trend for the Shorthorn breed to take when considering the feeders and the order buyers.  Much more acceptable to them.

 

[knabe]

Ok aj. Nice bull. Love the photo perspective.

 

[Freddy]

Nice bull AJ ,THOSE KIND WILL MAKE GOOD COWS TO RUN WITH A GOOD CHAROLAIS BULL....OR ore red ones if you choose !!!!

 

[Doc]

red angus bull I bought WCR Detour 3101a

He looks good. Joker looks like he has some meat in him.