Long Range Wormer

[oakie]

Has anyone tried this new product yet? What were your results? What age group of animals was it the most beneficial for you? We had a rep come to town and discuss it with us but I'd like to hear a little more about it before I spend $.01/lbs to worm an animal twice a year.

 

[Doc]

Got a buddy that's a rep for them. He said that he thinks most people will use it in the spring and he thinks it will work really beneficial on stockers turned out on grass ,then.

 

[ejoe326]

I don't think it's been widely available yet to know how it will work.

I know we tried to get some and couldn't and I haven't checked again.

We will use it as we process this spring since I like the idea of it.  We do fecals pre and post worming to find out what is and isn't working so I will be interested to find out.

 

[RyanChandler]

We do fecals pre and post worming to find out what is and isn't working so I will be interested to find out.

What is and isn't working?

 

[oakie]

It won't treat flukes or tapes so that is what we are on the fence about . It sounds like a pretty neat product. Our vet and the rep pushed for Valbizan in the fall (flukes and tapes) and long range throughout the year. I thought it would be interesting to try out on the weanlings once they go from the cows/hills to the bottom irrigation fields. The vet and rep pushed for it to be used on the mama cows while the calves are at their sides and stocker operations.  It's a $.01/lbs though and we're wondering if you see enough gain to cover the additional costs.

 

[oakie]

while on the topic of wormers, have any of you used Prohibit before? It's an ivermectrin drench product. We haven't used it on the cattle, but I have over 100 head of goats so I thought it would be a good idea to give it a try (alot cheaper than the rest, $20/packet, which doses about 200 goats). They looked like crap a month after the dosing, I hit them with noramectrin plus a month after the prohibit and they shed out all of their worm hair and started packing on the pounds. I'm wondering if I mixed it wrong or something. I don't think prohibit kills the juveniles which could have been the problem...................Did not do a fecal before dosing or after

 

[ejoe326]

Dectomex and Cydectin have not been working here.  Cydectin did a better job reducing more types but neither cut them down like they should.  Samples are taken directly from the cows and repeated 4-5 weeks after worming so we're not picking something up off the ground.
Each cow goes across the scale to make sure we have the right dose.

I was planning on going back to an injectable anyway for this spring to see if it'd make a difference.  I missed it wasn't going to get tapes.  We don't have flukes but tapes are a problem.

 

[oakie]

The vet said to use the valbizan drench alongside it.  It isn't supposed to create resistant worms, I'm really curious as to how it will work for you guys though. It sounds like you might have some resistance going on.  For curiosity sake, what state are you in?

 

[Lucky_P]

Prohibit is levamisole - a completely different class of anthelminthic from the macrocyclic lactones (ivermectin class).

I don't have any experience, and minimal information on,  the 'Long Range' preparation, but be aware, it's only been tested and cleared for use in cattle - we don't know anything about safety, dosage, or even how - or if - it works in other species.

We have no idea how the biogel formulation will act in goats/sheep - how rapidly it'll be broken down or released, whether it'll reach therapeutic or potentially toxic (unlikely) levels in the small ruminants.  No ideas about slaughter withdrawal time in species other than cattle.

If you have populations of parasites that are already resistant to ivermectin or moxidectin(Cydectin), it's unlikely that the eprinomectin in Long Range will be effective.
If nothing else, using it in goats will pretty much ensure rapid selection for populations of parasites resistant to that whole class of dewormers(ivermectin, Cydectin, Dectomax, etc.)