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[breyfarm]

I don't see the 18,000 dollar difference in lots 1 and 2. This nonsense of I'll bid yours up to 20,000 if you bid mine up is bull sh**

 

[frostback]

Where is your proof that is happening? Speaking of bull, people whining about sales and shows and someone elses accomplishments, boo hoo hoo.

 

[Ohio1]

He must be considerably better if the start him at 15,000 and the others at 1,700.

 

[showsteerdlux]

I don't see the 18,000 dollar difference in lots 1 and 2. This nonsense of I'll bid yours up to 20,000 if you bid mine up is bull sh**

Funny the only thing I see as being bs, is comments like these, and IMO, unless you are raising cattle of this calibur for years,upon years, then shut up and watch. As of 845 PM Eastern time there was a 3,000 dollar difference on $30,000 calves. Not that big a difference. Maybe if you would let a sale ride out and do what it does, then we wouldn't have to worry about stupid post on here.

 

[twistedhshowstock]

The biggest difference in value of anything is what someone is willing to pay for it!  If I raise a steer that I believe is identical to one that sold for $40,000, so I put a $40,000 price tag on him.  Some would argue that he is worth $40,000 because he looks identical to the one that brought $40,000.  Yet I never get $40,000, where is the logic?What is the difference?  The difference is someone was willing to pay $40,000 for the one, yet nobody was willing to pay $40,000 for the other.  Its plain and simple, any product is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it. 

 

[Ohio1]

The biggest difference in value of anything is what someone is willing to pay for it!  If I raise a steer that I believe is identical to one that sold for $40,000, so I put a $40,000 price tag on him.  Some would argue that he is worth $40,000 because he looks identical to the one that brought $40,000.  Yet I never get $40,000, where is the logic?What is the difference?  The difference is someone was willing to pay $40,000 for the one, yet nobody was willing to pay $40,000 for the other.  Its plain and simple, any product is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it. 

Or the name it's coming from

 

[Hereford399]

I'm not talking about prices because if I sold calf for that much I'd be pumped but did anyone see lot 3? I thought he was very good as well I know they said he didn't have as much hair but I think the purchasers of him had a steal. He was a truck like his brothers. Love to get some of those embryos. Congradulations to m heart and the buyers it was fun to watch.

 

[breyfarm]

I don't see the 18,000 dollar difference in lots 1 and 2. This nonsense of I'll bid yours up to 20,000 if you bid mine up is bull sh**

Funny the only thing I see as being bs, is comments like these, and IMO, unless you are raising cattle of this calibur for years,upon years, then shut up and watch. As of 845 PM Eastern time there was a 3,000 dollar difference on $30,000 calves. Not that big a difference. Maybe if you would let a sale ride out and do what it does, then we wouldn't have to worry about stupid post on here.

Ended up a 19,000 dollar difference, but before everyone starts in on the bashing of me I never said anything wrong about making good money. More power to the owners of a 50,000 dollar 3 month old bull. And more power to the person who paid 50 grand on an animal that could grow up and  could win big shows and Could  make some money on semen sales. But what do I know, I'm just in it to produce market animals, not circus animals.

 

[chambero]

Then go to the market animal forum. 

 

[GONEWEST]

^^^^

What he said X 10

 

[kfacres]

Then go to the market animal forum. 

ha, I have always been told this is the SHOW STEER forum...  perhaps even by you once or twice... In my book, show steers would be fancy market animals

Seems to me that this forum is whatever you want it to be-- to whoever you want it to be like...

 

[mooch]

Some of us like raising our circus animals because you can always count on a couple clowns showing up!

 

[breyfarm]

Last time I checked a show steer is a market animal. Thats what shows are for..to see who brought the best overall market animal. Its turned into more of a grownup game than it has for 4-h kids.

 

[vc]

It has gotten quite interesting lately, several posters seem h377 bent on starting junk and then stirring the pot for their own enjoyment, (or to just make themselves feel better). They do not seem to intersted in offering help to anyone that asks for advice or suggestions, want to knock show cattle at every turn, and really enjoy tearing up the cattle from their breed of choice that others raise.

I would have to say they must of thought that lot 1 was something else with a floor price of 15000, they appear to have been correct.

As far as they are not market animals how is it, every steer we have raised has graded choice or better, that is 10 years and over 25 steers, the buyers who bought them came back every year and bought again, all but 3 were out of club calf bulls. They hit market weight, they graded out and satisfied the customer, what more do you want from a market animal?

Now if you do not like the way shows are run in your area, work at changing it, but no matter what you do the same people will still win.
Local bred only, (someone will breed cluby) ADG (they will hold the calf back at initial weigh in and fill him up at final weigh in and have a 150 to 200 pound swing) Slick shear, (still need to know how to select and feed one)

I guess we can change the old saying: Those that can, do. Those that cant teach. To, Those that can, do. Those that can't, sit around and bad mouth those that can.

 

[kfacres]

As far as they are not market animals how is it, every steer we have raised has graded choice or better, that is 10 years and over 25 steers, the buyers who bought them came back every year and bought again, all but 3 were out of club calf bulls. They hit market weight, they graded out and satisfied the customer, what more do you want from a market animal?

What happened to the other 99% of the calves that didn't make the show string cut?  How did they grade/ cut/ and sell?

 

[chambero]

I've posted the carcass results of every "cull" we've sent to the feedlot every year for several years.  No difference in our carcasses of the Heat Wave sons vs. the other bloodlines we send.  About to send another 150 to the feedlot for $1.85 for 600 lbs. in two weeks.  We never have a problem for commercial bidders on our leftovers.

I'd lay money that any one of the large club calf outfits know more about and have more involvement in the commercial side of the business than the "commercial experts" on this board combined.  The opposite sure isnt the case.

 

[frostback]

Just a little tidbit I found out, the high seller was a very poor grade 3 embryo that almost got thrown out but they had enough recips that he got put in.

 

[ZNT]

Another tidbit about the Miller family. They also operate a 5000-8000 head custom cattle feeding operation on the south side of Torrington. They understand all ends of the cattle business; commercial and circus cattle.

 

[breyfarm]

Another tidbit about the Miller family. They also operate a 5000-8000 head custom cattle feeding operation on the south side of Torrington. They understand all ends of the cattle business; commercial and circus cattle.

Thats great good for them..this has nothing to do with the family. Just the logic of a 50,000 dollar 3 month old bull is what I was after. I believe I said more power to them for making good money. Good job!

 

[chambero]

Go try to buy the best 3 month old bull calf ar Schaff, Conneally, Sitz, or any of the other real commercial oriented purebred breeders and see what kind of price they hit you with.