You know Carlson you really have some nerve getting on someones topic and hijacking it so you can get an answer on some cow that you can't decided who to bred what bull too. Where I come from that is the rudest thing you can do to someone. I mean if you can't make a decision on what bull you want to breed to your cow, well then you have a management problem buddy. How hard is it to move your hand and click on the "New Topic" button, start your own thread. As far as I am concerned if you want to know how to bred your cow.....look at her, analyse her, see what parts she has missing and start looking for a bull that combines those parts better than she does.