I agree with you on this one, I have 9 units in the tank I've had since he came out, I refuse to pay $80 for a certificate so it can sit there and rot.dragon lady said:The only problem I have with Caesar is the $80 certificate - I do like his females, but think there are other bulls just as good without paying the owner for the privilege of buying semen from his bull (that's sure to cause a ruckus!! ;D