Milkman

[DLB]

I know Milkman throws some big calves....what do they typically run?  I'm interested in giving him a shot-but I won't sacrifice my females in the process...so any input is appreciated.

 

[cotullaguy]

you will get some that weigh 150 lbs.

 

[Freddy]

We used one of or smaller Angus cows to flush to an had no problems at al an very saleable calves , you know that there are some cow's that have tendency to throw big calves also ...

 

[Show Steaks]

bred to are angsu cows we had 2 in the 90's (which is managble and realistic in the clubby world) and one BIG one, how it was born unassisted i don know it stood almost hip high to me at birth and im right at 6 foot

 

[DLB]

So it almost gonna always happen that these calves are going to be big.  So are the calves more "manageable" from smaller BW females-to where the calves BW is averaged between "ginormous" and average?  Again, thank you for the information

 

[Show Steaks]

i'd worry about them too wide more than weight, them suckers are thick

 

[Freddy]

Isn't that extra thickness what every one wan't's from HEAT WAVE ,an every one swears by them , some swear at them tooo..The cow family that MILKMAN came from in Canada  was large birth weight (the sire of mother was a son of WYOMING Wind ....

 

[gilbert07]

we had a heifer out of him out of a purebred charolais that weight 90 lbs at the most...shes really wide through the top and rear end..i think its just how you feed them is what causes them to be monsterous at birth..we had no problem and charolais are know for growth

 

[olsencattleco]

I believe some of the highest reported birthweights on heatwave have been from pb charolais cattle, but we have used both heatwave and milkman and have not had a calf over 100 lbs. Our milkmans were very stout yes, but i also didnt breed him to my cows that are known for high birthweights. I think it also has alot to do with management of the cattle in the last trimester. In a dry lot situation which occurs more often up north than down here in the south, then i would assume bw's would be higher. Our cattle are in very good shape when they calve but they are grass fat, we dont grain.

 

[Freddy]

Mr. Olsen  has a very correct  comment on some of the problems encountered from calving ,the guy breeding is in charge an needs to watch an know his cattle .  The Charolais is a breed that many are not familiar with the different bloodlines, the breed as a whole has been growth oriented an there definitely bloodlines that are not suitable on the average for raising club calves, first they will get to bigto look an finish out properly.  Second the birth weight just comes right with that,an a lot of the Chars focused on extra frame an length ,not much lower muscle or  thickness but for their goal of big feeder cattle this wasn't needed an might cause more calving problems... Like most of your club calve breeds there are maines not oriented for the club calf business ...Selection is very important in this business an all other phases of raising cattle ....