Mixing medicine in the same syringe

[zak]

Instead of giving two shots to a cow can I mix lutalyse and gnhr in the same syringe?

Zak

 

[CAB]

No I wouldn't do that, but a quick question, why are you giving those 2 shots @ the same time? I've never heard of that B4, but that doesn't mean that there's not a reason to do it.

 

[Cowboy]

Brent is right -- do NOT mix these two drugs.

Lutelyse brinhs the cow into heat by regressing the CL and forming a follicle containing the egg.

Gnrh does the oposite -- it will try and ovulate the follicle present -- this needs done AFTER she is in heat and after breeding, it just HELPS ovulate her in case you may be off on timing a bit.

Two different drugs designed for totally different results.

Cab -- I have a few extra JACKETS here we don't use in case you folks are feeling a little chilly up there -- it's only been 95-104 here for the last week or so -- EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Terry

 

[CAB]

I grabbed a JACKET this morning, but decided quickly that I could do without it. 126 heat index yesterday and today it is suppose to be a little warmer. Cows are starting to act like sows in their favorite wallows. Look tough!!! Gotta love the hairy ones  in these dog days of summer.

 

[zak]

I did not realize that they work effect eachother. I have two cows that I am setting up for eggs and 1 shot of gnrh is not enough to get rid of the cyst. Can I give a shot of gnrh while she is in heat and also can I give another shot of gnrh 2 days before the egg goes in or do I only have to give a shot while she is in heat?

Zak

 

[CAB]

Zak give us your whole protocol for setting up your recip cows please. I wouldn't think that you would want to use a cistic recip. You just need to get your cows to come into heat and approximately 7 days later she should be ready to have the embryo implanted.

 

[zak]

I have a problem with cyst in my herd. The two cows that I am setting up were supposed to get eggs implanted a week ago but they were cystic. I gave them a shot of gnhr last wed and was going to give them a shot of lut tommmorow. Then while they are in standing heat give them another shot of gnhr. Then implant eggs 7 days after heat.


Zak

 

[CAB]

Zak I hate to say it, but I think that you are headed down a road that you may not get very good results on. Cystic cows are not good candidates for embryos. I would hate for you to go through all of the troubles and have bad results. Have you talked to the embryologist about your plans? I think a phone call to him would be prudent.

 

[zak]

Would using a cidr make any difference?

Zak

 

[CAB]

Right now IMO your biggest obstacle is that you are saying that your recips are cystic. You need to address that issue B4 anything else and cows  that have a history of being cystic are not good candidates for recips in general. You need to talk to a reproduction specialists IMO.