N/C: Shooting at Fort Hood, TX! Terrible Tragedy!

[kanshow]

Speaking of the President...  Here is how he addresses the tragedy..  it took him 2 minutes of idle banter & shout out.    How incredibly insensitive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF5DnWc8hp8

 

[Simmgirl03]

I hate that he can not even look to the crowd when sending his thoughts and prayers to those involved.  It means little if it has to be read. 

I can say, without having to have a prepared speech, that this was an unimaginable event, and as I think of my brother stationed at Ft. Bragg, NC in the United State's Army, I can not imagine what the wounded and their loved ones are feeling at this time. May they find the comfort they need to continue on and know that their services to this country are greatly appreciated and respected.

 

[knabe]

cognitive dissonance

 

[Ohioteerchick]

Wow. Obama took for ever to address what happened. Wouldnt you think insead of thanking just about everyone in the room hed get right to the point, I'm pretty sure what happened is more important.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

cognitive dissonance Or lack of a proper speech right on either way-the only diiference if any is 1;Im from the south-and make NO BONES about having racial and or any other kind of predjudice against people who would be welcome to my country-be given the advantage of the best education and future available-and turn on us, 2;In the same breathe see our young people die to protect-a culture that has for better or worse-a majority opinion that we should be blown off the face of the earth, and as far as what affiliation I am, it has no bearing on the fact that I care more about our kids-and the children over there being blown to bits or forced into a slave like existance by terrorists-than: the Oil. Opium, and so called democratic or other forms of freedom and tyrranny that these god -forsaken  desert hells have not yielded  for thousands of years-, and many great and fallen empires.They aint like us-they aint never gonna be like us-get over it-I quote that from a 21 year old soldier I sat by on a plane-back from Iraq. O0 <beer>

 

[knabe]

just to clarify, my cognitive dissonance comment was not in reference to a post, but the incompatibility of many mandates in islam with the west.

the most obvious one being you can't criticize islam without fear of death or pc bombardment.

i guess you could add criticism of the obama administration without being called a racist.  

so many inconsistencies.  free speech should just be abolished, it's so overrated.

Hasan told classmates he was "a Muslim first and an American second."

many other ethnicities in America feel the same way.  some polling as high as 70% (yes, more than one group polls this high)

There should be rigorous equality for Muslims. It shouldn’t even be necessary to point out what is obvious: Muslims in the military shouldn’t experience special treatment either of a positive or a negative kind.

 

[DiamondS]

My sister is at Ft. Hood as we speak preparing to leave for Iraq.  She had been in the very same room that the shooting took place just a couple days before.  I thank god that she is ok, but I pray for those that are not.  She and many of her fellow soldiers are very upset and shaken over this event.  It seems to them that it takes something horrific to pull this country together to support eachother.  It also takes something like this for the "higher-ups" to realize that maybe some of these soldiers need a break.  This man should have known better.  May he burn in hell.......

 

[knabe]

from mark steyn

In Toronto this week, the brave ex-Muslim Nonie Darwish mentioned en passant that, on flying from the U.S. to Canada, she was questioned at length about the purpose of her visit by an apparently Muslim border official. When she revealed that she was giving a speech about Islamic law, he rebuked her: “We are not to question sharia.”

That’s the guy manning the airport-security desk.

my comments.
i wish muslims would help us make the line clear between this terrorist and the rest of muslims instead of continually making it fuzzy.  as long as it's fuzzy, it's one group to me.  not being able to criticize islam or make fun of it just like we do other groups, point out irony, inconsistencies,  makes it really fuzzy for me, or in another way, crystal clear there is no difference.

 

[ROAD WARRIOR]

Ok I'm late on this post as we have been in the field BUT.......... Make absolutely no mistake about it ladies and gentlemen, as long as we, the United States of America continue to tolerate acts of violence and terrorism against us by ANYONE they will continue. We have become so politically correct that we have become weak. Make an example out any and all terrorists publically. Interogate them to the point that they beg you to put their miserable carcass out of its missery and then push them farther. Do not believe for one second that any of our boys that they capture will fare any better. I am sickend by the actions of our elected officials and their inability to act on any given situation in a prompt and decisive manner. There is no reason for a soldier fought foot war in that region with todays technology. And I do not believe in the premise that there are too many "innocents" to warrant a full scale attack. There are no innocents, for centuries they have fought anyone they could and each other, it is how they are raised and what there exhistance is based on. Pull our boys out of that POS country and make a lake out of it! Round up the hord of them that are already here and give them a choice - leave or die. Call me old fashioned but at least for a few more years this is still the United States of America, it's about time we act like it. We were once one of the most feared and respected countries in the world because it was well known that if you messed with us we would kick your ass, no questions asked. It is what made this country in the very beggining and throughout history until recently when we started worrying about the rights of some whacko thats only purpose in life is to kill us. Rights are earned not granted without question. How far must this go before we finally stand up and say - enough is enough! RW

 

[knabe]

all bush had to do was allow military courts swift accurate action.  instead, you have terrorists in civilian courts.  if the terrorists actually feared us and saw the consequences of military justice, and if bush wouldn't have relied on pakistan to cover bin laden's retreat in tora bora, things may have been a little different.  the notion that it had to be a multi-national effort sent the message that we are weak, which we are now. 

 

[kanshow]

At least we still have a class act with the Bushes. 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/07/george-w-bush-secretly-visits-fort-hood-victims/

 

[knabe]

His fellow students complained to the faculty about Hasan's "anti-American propaganda," but said a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim student kept officers from filing a formal complaint.

it's better to be dead than appearing discriminatory.

 

[knabe]

“Political correctness”—which is basically a low-grade Stockholm syndrome

PC is, strictly speaking, a totalitarian philosophy. Newsweek, Dec. 24, 1990