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xxcc

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Calling View Teton was raised by Stan Spicer.  To the best of my knowledge, Stan Spicer was a herdsman for Pine Tree Rancho.  I'm not quite sure how he ended up with Teton, but he also had Rambler 3M Elegant to sell, among others.

I was also told by the breeder of Border Creek Future, Pride and others that Stan selected Feraine and Epice in France.

Justintime, that along with the fact that Bresil was supposed to be a pretty good bull compelled me to buy and breed some BC Future semen.  I bred 3 fullblood cows to him this year.  Interesting that you have calves on ground by him.  I also have 13 amps of 84E semen that I intend to use.  Among other things, in the pics I have seen of 84E, he has a very pretty head.

By the way, Border Creek Future and Sundower Epinal 84E are PHA free.  As are,

Eden
Loulou
Loujo
Loustic
Calberta Lucky Strike, Royal Red and Equalizer
Poplar Hvn Big Red Magic
Silver King
Mr Triple L 100Z
Mr Triple L 108Y
ZTA Magnum 44
Shaver Bysantin
Shaver Buret
Beaufort George
PTR Epinal 81E
Bar UJ Allen
and other old ones if anybody cares to know.

I am yet to send in Iabon and HSF Sam 80E, but they will go at some point to, as will Darco and Dada,  but I am not about to blow a whole unit for that test, only a portion is retained and submitted.  But I have also located Duke of Heaven and Prairied Blizzard for testing, but if it makes it there may be another story. - I tell you, in looking for a "good" answer in regard to a sole PHA source, I feel like I've been riding the brush and the river bottoms looking for stray cattle.
 

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Do you mean this bull is on the computer and on line? WOW! Good looking and computer skills, he should have no trouble finding a job even in this slow economy!  ;D
 

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garybob said:
farmboy said:
SHORTHORN
Aside from that itty-bitty scrotum, he looks pretty good!


He's a full brother to Warhorse. Not sure of his TH, PHA status but I liked his daughters better then Warhorse (had alittle more of a cow look to me). Flushed him to a full sister of Ladd hoping for a great heifer but got all bull calves really nice steers though.
 

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here's a say...shirttail relative of warhorse and warpaint
 

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Can't recall if or how he is related to Warhorse and Warpaint, but #570 kind of looks like a mature pic I saw of Irish Whiskey in a sale catalog once.  If it is him, how far back is the relation?  Frostback's answer of Hard Core is the most logical and probably right choice with his relationship to them.
 

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HARDCORE SIRED BY JAYHAWK WHO'S DAM IS A FULL SISTER TO WARHORSE

                                  PAYOFF
                  - JAYHAWK
                                  FULL SIS TO WARHORSE
HARDCORE             
                              -HABENARO
                -DANDYS SAMANTHA
                              -SWEET DANDY(MAGIC)         
                 
             
                                       
 

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farmBoy, The owners advertise Hard Core as such, but if you check out both pedigrees CMAC Hard Core and MCF Warhorse ET you might find that not to be exactly correct. This will be a good exercise for all.

The question will be...Is the Mother of Jayhawk a fulll sister to Warhorse and if not how are they related? 
 

xxcc

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many of you may groan, but whiskey is related to warpaint and every other maine bull in the same way...similar foundation bulls, cunia, etula, yada yada
 

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Telos said:
farmBoy, The owners advertise Hard Core as such, but if you check out both pedigrees CMAC Hard Core and MCF Warhorse ET you might find that not to be exactly correct. This will be a good exercise for all.

The question will be...Is the Mother of Jayhawk a full sister to Warhorse and if not how are they related? 

OK - Hardcores paternal grand dam (Debbies Girl RW17C) was sired by Mr Bill 042X, who's sire is Senator Jack.
Warhorse's dam (RW Red Debbie 70) is sired by Mr Bill 042X (the same Mr Bill I might ad) who's sire is Senator Jack.

If I was a bull an my name was MCF MR DEBS GIRL PAYOFF I think I'd leave town  ;D ;D (please note - this is a joke - if you don't think it is funny don't call the owners and tell them I am bashing their bull - it is a joke about a name that as a bull I would be embarrassed as if I were (sing a few bars boys) "A  boy named Sue)

ps xxcc - that's a bit like saying we all derived from Apes or Adam and Eve.....
 

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Noticed that a new member of the planet is bigun (hope you aren't trying to hide  ;D)

There was a Maine bull by the name of Gig Gun - anybody remember him or anything about him? (I do have the answer and I believe a picture)
 

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DL... Jayhawk's dam is not a full sister to Warhorse, like the owners advertised. Although Jayhawk's dam is a full sister to Warhorse's dam, but not to Warhorse himself. Warhorse was sired by Double Stuff.
 
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