I saw him as a yearling at hawkeye, he seemed to be a medium frame score for me. My simm yearling bull I had bought 2 weeks prior to seeing one in a million was prob 6 inches to a foot taller. But not sure what the age difference is between them, could be a month or 6 months. He still looked really good to me just a medium framed bull. He had a lot of muscle but had absolutely no hair to him. Have not heard of any calf reports.