New definition for Clubby bred

[Gmc cattle]

Your right! I guess I was commenting the fact that people are so caught up in black cattle only concept.

Limiman, we are on the same page.

Yes, but the MARKET for feeder calves, is set at the sale barn.  And even though there is evidence that.  Charolais and Limousin cattle feed with better feed efficiency, angus out markets science.  Until that changes, smart business people produce a product that the market pays top dollar for.

 

[hamburgman]

What color are all the calves on the rail? I think this is where market price needs to be determined.

The rail doesn't take into account all the cripples and couldn't finish at a decent weight, all the extra hair that hurt feed efficiency, the smaller frame score that hurts growth etc.

Talked to a guy the other day about this.  Really a 1500 calf doesn't cut it now, you need at  least 2,000 I figure to cover your extra cost and time/labor.  Also figuring in the "dinks" that a lot of people get that have no growth and take the beating at the sale barn.  I love backgrounding calves and sometimes you can get the clubbies bought right, but you have to be careful.  I try to stay away from any of the yak haired ones especially.

 

[Dyer Show cattle]

Most of my cows are sim angus cows with not to many clubby bred cows in the heard. In the past I have gotten hit mainly on the really harry ones. This year the only calf I took a hit on was a super thick angus calf out a first calf sim heifer that had quite a bit of hair but lost his tail switch.....Same deal there not many cuts of meat come from the tail but they still dock them. But on the harry ones I understand they do not take the heat as well and they get a lot of pounds of mud caked on there in the feedlots so I can't say I blame them there.

 

[tcf]

When cattle sell with Frozen ears or short tales buyers are wary that their feet have been frozen a bit too. Bad for down the road. I am from Saskatchewan and in our area this idea is taken to heart when the bitter cold sets in. We have a good bed pack and keep calves warm so no feet are affected but every now and then we lose some tips of ears/ tails and just cant stop it.