I have been wondering lately with as many bulls that lautners and everyone else promotes yearly, how many good bulls have fallen through the cracks. For example, I can look through some of lautners bulls that came several years ago, that have all the right pedigrees and look like they have some potential and yet I have not even heard of a single calf. I got some Duramax semen last year for 9 bucks a unit and used it on some cows just for kicks. Has anyone else thought about a "no-name bull" and wondered what if? Have you used any of the lesser known bulls out there and had success? <cowboy>