pasture check

[r.n.reed]

This heifer calf caught my eye the other day when checking a remote pasture she is about 2 1/2 mo.old.She has an inbreeding coeficient of 39.18.Her dam,grandam, great grandam and great great grandam are still in active production.Her dams heifer from last year is being bred this spring so the potential is there for 5 consecutive generations still in active production.This heifer also represents the 13th generation of this cow family since the foundation female for this line was purchased.Every herd bull that made it to senior sire status in our herd the last 44 years appears at least once in her extended pedigree except for one but his sire and dam are well represented in her ancestry.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Nice VERY USEFULL heifer-but you'd probably get mad at my breeding suggestions LOL <beer> O0 O0 O0

 

[r.n.reed]

Being a Shorthorn breeder I have developed some fairly thick skin over the years Mark.I promise I won't get mad.Here is another picture of her that you might appreciate more.

 

[shortybreeder]

I like her a lot! My first show heifer had her first granddaughter this year, so I'm excited to have 3 generations on the farm. But 5 generations would be fantastic! Nice work!

 

[mark tenenbaum]

JR Walker-His dam-her daughter and his daughters were very good cows-many living till they were 15 or 16. There was only 1 calf crop-but there were 7-8 different heifers that stood 1st and second at the National Jr Show-calf champs at iowa and several other state fairs etc. Although he was a 650 pound calf DWARFED by the 13-1500 calves in his 'AGE GROUP" he stood 2nd in a class of 12 monsters at Louisville and was called the most correct bull the judge had seen in the show so far-I dont like to huff and puff-but HE DREW Crowds on the hill at Denver etc. He immediately got kicked out into Deertrail Ranch Conditions )infamously harsh) and ran with cows non stop until his untimely death at a little over 2 years old. He remains-the best female sire Ive ever had-even tho Im just a small breeder.The files of him are too big to post The last pic is a very bad one of a daughter-her calf is the very young roan baby with his head down.The rest are all out of his daughters the roan baby was very young in the pic-he was pretty Ok -the big roan cow was a heck of a female as far as raising a caf etc she brought $6700 at the revival sale and I bought my half out-since I bred her.-But they  are not the best eertrail and DTR had some pretty good ones-DTR still does:including thier CE bull Moneyman who goes back to him twice as i remember-the red steer calf was out of a grandaughter-but he was a pretty good calf at least for me O0

 

[r.n.reed]

I like her a lot! My first show heifer had her first granddaughter this year, so I'm excited to have 3 generations on the farm. But 5 generations would be fantastic! Nice work!

Thanks for the comment Shortybreeder,it is good that you realize the value of longevity especially at this stage of your program.Productive longevity is an economically valuable trait and selecting for that is antagonistic to most purebred programs.The race to find and promote the next great one  does not lend itself  to maintaining those ''out of fashion'' genetics to even see what they are capable of.


Mark' it sounds like Junior Walker was quite a loss to your program,I have felt your pain more than once.

 

[aj]

You need to sell chances on Maxi Brute semen on a youth show drawing or something. I want some brute semen!

 

[mark tenenbaum]

I like her a lot! My first show heifer had her first granddaughter this year, so I'm excited to have 3 generations on the farm. But 5 generations would be fantastic! Nice work!

Thanks for the comment Shortybreeder,it is good that you realize the value of longevity especially at this stage of your program.Productive longevity is an economically valuable trait and selecting for that is antagonistic to most purebred programs.The race to find and promote the next great one  does not lend itself  to maintaining those ''out of fashion'' genetics to even see what they are capable of.


Mark' it sounds like Junior Walker was quite a loss to your program,I have felt your pain more than once.//// Well that was a while ago some of those pics are from close to ten years ago-But we will use him AI or in a flush here and there-he really worked on the Hilltop Lancer Guiness Mark4 types back to the Marvel breeding with some other "Irish" in there, which in a way are somewhat similar in type (tho maybe not as stout) as the cows I see you post. O0

 

[oakview]

Nice heifer, I prefer a little darker red color, though.  Some of the old timers say you need to use a white one at some point to keep the dark red.  Hard to do that if you want all solid red!  I'm glad I have some President semen. 

 

[r.n.reed]

Nice heifer, I prefer a little darker red color, though.  Some of the old timers say you need to use a white one at some point to keep the dark red.  Hard to do that if you want all solid red!  I'm glad I have some President semen. 

I agree Oakview a deeper red would be my choice as well but it is inherent in this breed and red on red seems to intensify it.Most of these tend to darken with age.I have heard that a white bull was the answer as well and better yet a white horned bull will fix about everything.I wonder if that goes back to the days of Whitehall Sultan.Maybe at some point I will have to breed her to Wolf Ridge Samson.

 

[Medium Rare]

She looks like a very useful heifer.

All wound up with the good stuff just waiting to be unlocked.

 

[oakview]

That would be something if we could develop a market for white horned Shorthorn bulls!  I have a very good white polled Leader 9th grandson that is ticketed for use on some of my more "colorful" heifers.  White sure can help get rid of those spots.

 

[RyanChandler]

Looks like a good one to me-- share some more pics when you get time  (thumbsup)

 

[r.n.reed]

She looks like a very useful heifer.

All wound up with the good stuff just waiting to be unlocked.

You make a good point Medium Rare the real bonus goes to the cattleman who uses an animal like this in an outcross or crossbreeding situation.I have been tightening these pedigrees for sometime now and this heifer's pedigree is about as intense as I have gone so far.I will know more in 2 to 3 years but so far I am happy with the inbreeding regression.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

For someone to come in and crossbreed on the Kaper deal -My thoughts to the T based upon how we used Jr walker almost 20 years ago-we even have a 5 year old out of him-not as fancy as some of the good ones but her heifer this year was in the high 3s etc etc -All of them have been an extremely correct ,and  maternal ( HOW THEY SUBSIST AND RAISE A CALF) bunch, Ill try to scan some old photos of the daughters we had. The "native" cattle I've seen in general do not have the stoutness of the oldline blood I remember at Deertrail, Harold Hoskins,etc. Your cows although nowhere near as big -DO. O0

 

[Duncraggan]

Good heifer there Gary!