Pleasant Dawn Seal 2nd

[librarian]

I was trying to study up on Kenmar Ranger 74K and I see his dam is double bred to Pleasant Dawn Seal 2nd.
Any remarks about him? Thanks.

 

[Cabanha Santa Isabel - BR]

I own some straws him. The last ones on South America.
Hope to get info regarding him too.

 

[oakview]

He sired Kenmar Ransom 32Z, a bull Don Cagwin brought down from Canada and won US National Champion honors with.  He in turn sired Mill Brook Ransom G9 who did the same.  Seal was used some in the states, but competed with the Leader 21 craze and did not match his success.  I would bet there is semen around. 

 

[Okotoks]

Coyote might be able to tell you about how he breeds. They had a couple of calves by him in 2000 and one in 2005. He shows up in some of their pedigrees today. Seal 2nd was born in 1961 and I don't remember too many animals by him but a grandson Pleasant Dawn Mark had an influence in the 70's with one of his sons Woody Hills Mark 6th being used at Scotsdale.

 

[librarian]

32Z is a big favorite of mine. I can remember a picture forever, but not a name, so I forgot Dawn Seal was his sire.
Trying to find a picture of Dawn Seal I found this son in Maryland. He looks nice to me.
MSF/RDE Elite Edition 8 ET
This young bull is sired by a popular bull of the 1960's, Pleasant Dawn Seal 2nd. His dam RDE Freda 202 is one of those outstanding beef cows that traces back to the performance herd of Bill McLean in Washington State. Freda is presently owned by the Sullivan Cattle Company. Elite Edition offers some unique genetics in both style and performance.
http://www.rdeshorthorns.com/elite%20edition.html
32Z second picture

 

[SeannyT]

I was trying to study up on Kenmar Ranger 74K and I see his dam is double bred to Pleasant Dawn Seal 2nd.
Any remarks about him? Thanks.

Kenmar Ranger walked our pastures for several years and to this date is still one of the best herd sires to call Poplar Park home. He left many great females for us, including the dam of JT Titan 3T.

http://www.poplarparkfarm.com/ranger74k.html

 

[oakview]

Lloyd Hatch had to be a great cattleman.  He judged the Minnesota State Fair in 1975 and picked my bull as Grand Champion.  A Hereford breeder judged the Iowa State Fair and he picked my bull, too.  I can't think of his name right now, but it'll come to me.  I've seen some semen sell recently out of Pleasant Dawn Approval 6B, Tank, Jr.  I think he was used mostly in Illinois.

 

[sue]

The calves by Elite Edition are  very good! I was at McElhaney Stock Farms last summer in Mid August. I saw the bull at Glen Holly and really liked him in person.  MSF program is pretty awesome- one of the best visits I have made in recent years. Established breeders but few realize how great the program has become.

 

[justintime]

Lloyd Hatch had to be a great cattleman.  He judged the Minnesota State Fair in 1975 and picked my bull as Grand Champion.  A Hereford breeder judged the Iowa State Fair and he picked my bull, too.  I can't think of his name right now, but it'll come to me.  I've seen some semen sell recently out of Pleasant Dawn Approval 6B, Tank, Jr.  I think he was used mostly in Illinois.

I consider Lloyd Hatch as being one of the best cattlemen I have ever known. I still oftentimes think of the Shorthorn cows he had, and I still would rank his herd as being one of the best , from top end to bottom end, that I have seen. He was one of the pioneers of breeding polled cattle. I have never liked this picture of Seal 2nd as he was many times better than this picture suggests. His daughters were simply amazing brood cows. I saw Seal 2nd when my dad and I were travelling around looking for a herd sire. Lloyd had just completed the deal with ABS days before we saw him. He had been planning to send him to market, as he had used him about all he could as he had kept many daughters.
My family and the Hatch family goes back into the 1920s. In the 30s when there was no feed or crops in this country, my grandparents loaded up all their family except for one 12 year old boy ( my uncle- he was left at home to look after the horses and cattle) and travelled by horse and wagon to the Hatch farm at Oak Lake, Manitoba. Today if a family left a 12 year old at home by himself for several weeks, they would be up on in trouble with Social services)They had a good hay crop and the Hatch family suggested that they come down and put up hay there. It was 150 miles away but they spent several weeks there. The hay was put up loose, then forked onto hay racks, then taken to the railroad and forked into box cars. The train brought the hay to a town 8 miles from our farm. They then forked the hay onto hay racks and hauled it 8 miles home where it was then forked into the hay slings and dropped into the barn loft. They then forked the hay out of the loft throughout the winter to feed the cows and horses.
Not only was Lloyd Hatch a great cattle breeder, but he was also a great person. I can remember sitting in the cafeteria at the Regina Exhibition with him, and we saw a homeless man stop at a table near us and take some French fries off a plate that someone had left. Lloyd excused himself from our table, and walked over to the man and took him by the arm and led him through the cafeteria line. He made sure he had lots of food on his tray and he paid for it all. That was just the kind of man he was. It did not matter if you were 10 years old or 90 years old, Lloyd and his wife would welcome you for a visit.
I can still remember as if it was yesterday, Lloyd telling us about the escaped murderer who took him and his wife captive in their home, tied them up and held them hostage for a couple days. I heard that the only thing that kept them alive was Lloyd's ability to talk and reason with the man. Eventually, he took the Hatch's into a motel in Virden, Manitoba and the police eventually surrounded the motel and the standoff lasted for 2 more days. It ended with a shoot out with the escaped man killed and the Hatch's unharmed. Lloyd spoke about this as if he wished he could have helped this man more.

 

[Mark H]

The Hatch Family are first rate stockmen and easy to deal with.  If you buy a bull from them count on good service. If you hve a problem with an animal you buy from them they will make it right.  Even though they aren't raising Shorthorns anymore tnye are worth talking to for doing seedstock.  See their website: http://www.pleasantdawn.com/

 

[librarian]

Thank you, JIT, for the story. Steerplanet is far better than television thanks to your adventures and acquaintances. Better even than radio.
And thank you Poplar Park for the picture of Ranger and the link. All the bulls you have pictured are really interesting. The Titan bull is kind of what lead me to this question. I got infatuated with Diamond Anna Y2K and started looking to see what was back behind her dam.

 

[coyote]

We used Seal a bit and we liked the offspring and we were really pleased with the growth of them , especially when Seal was a bull from the 1960's.
Here is a picture of one of him daughters that produced well here.

 

[librarian]

Coyote, 25K and 12L are both out of MF Savage 0136 daughters.
Do they look almost alike? I am just confused and wonder if this cow is 12L.
Thanks for taking time to put up the 25K picture. I'm thinking that nice udder is characteristic of your cows and not necessarily Pleasant Dawn Seal?

 

[aj]

I remember dad and Willard Hartley had a "Riverhearst" Canadian bull that I think went back to seal......mid 70's ........1970's.

 

[coyote]

librarian, 25K is by Pleasant Dawn Seal . someone made a mistake on the last picture.