Quick opinion

[lomac]

What order would u put these two in.  1st-2nd.  Thank you

 

[lomac]

Black steer won Grand Champion over the B/W steer which ended up getting reserve is y I'm asking. Weren't sure if I missed something in the placement?

 

[hntwhitetail]

I had one last yr that should have won, but the judge said he would have placed it first, but it bad too much hair.  Even when it was never in a cooler.

 

[lomac]

  It was a lil disheartening. We just keep getting on.

 

[knabe]

The steer with the pone fat looks done. Yours does not.

I'm not sure, but do you know how to get them that fat and hold them?

That's just my perception from pic.

 

[lomac]

He was done. Grader almost put him at Prime. Called another grader over and they agreed to disagree and put him at C+. That B/W steer showed 2 times bigger in comparison. Black steer 1354, B/W 1390. I see what your saying. The B/W had pone fat as well and was noticeable clipped

 

[DLD]

Black and white steer looks plenty fat.  And I agree he looks thicker and bigger bodied.  But, without seeing them together, seeing them move, and handling them, it's pretty hard for us to say it was wrong or right. 

I can tell you that a packer buyer would probably choose the solid black one because they would call the other one too wasty - that big middle we've chosen to favor in the show ring doesn't yield meat on the rail, thus a lower dressing percentage/less profit.  But not many packer buyers judge shows.

Bottom line is it happens to all of us sooner or later.  We all get beat by cattle we don't think should've beat us.  Sometimes it's politics, sometimes we're barn blind, but probably most often we got a judge that puts his/her emphasis in different places than we do.  You just have to tell your kids (and yourself) that it was just one man's opinion on one day,  just got go home and work your butt off to try and beat 'em next time.

 

[lomac]

Yes sir. That's what we do. She walked him in the ring the next day and took Grand Champion senior showman. Try and get them bigger and better for this year. It's one mans opinion and the kids are well aware of that. We don't complain. We are happy with our results this year.  Wanted to see what others might think. Judges thoughts were.....how beautiful he was, that he was built like a tank, built like a truck, got out on the move well for his muscling and how he must have been fun to show throughout the year. Ultimately he said he was looking for a little less muscle. Looking forward to hunting around for our calf this year

 

[Bradenh]

I don't think either one of them are good enough to justify getting worked up over getting beat. I would have used the black steer because his hind leg is closer to being correct its only a nickle straight while paint is way goofy on on his running gear. Black steer is more complete to me overall

 

[vc]

Some judges will have a weight range they will go with, unless there is one that they just cant get around, your calf may have been out of it. We shoot for calves to weigh in at 1250 to 1330, ideal being around 1300, heavier than that they seem to get knocked down if there is one that is comparable but in the right weight range. Without seeing them side by side and walking I'm not going to give a reason either way.

The boy I helped out a few years ago won the show, the calf that was reserve was just as good, a little longer bodied but everything else was comparable, the boys steer weighed in at 1285, full, the other 1389 (the dad was not there and the mom had the son water the calf prior to weigh-in, he filled up) My good friend had been helping the other family over the years, he knew who was going to win before they even showed, based off the weight.

 

[lomac]

Definitely not getting worked up over getting beat. Only asking for opinions so we can learn and know what to look for in picking out steers in the future. I appreciate everyone's response. Be looking to buy another one here in Sept.

 

[Bradenh]

Place a lot of emphasis on their structure and angels of lines associated with it. From their hocks to pasterns- hooks to pins- shoulders to knees- ect and pursue cattle that have a neck that attaches higher in their skeleton. It looks like he was fed And managed Well, his angles all over just leave Some to be desired

That calf is a mab isn't he? He looks like every mature mab out there but  I have been wrong before

 

[lomac]

Lol you know he is Braden. Have never forgot what u have told me in the past about MAB's. Something to the point of.......... they look and show beautifully when they are young but are heart breakers in the end lol.  Going to be sending you picks of what we are looking at this year. Let u advise so we can learn. I know you aren't a MAB lover haha.  Maybe going the Lone Ranger or Monopoly route this year. Not sure yet.

 

[Bradenh]

Ohh hell I didn't realize that was the same calf Id seen in his younger days

Yep Im out on mab

Welcome to steerplanet by the way now that I know who you are