Red Angus Bulls

[aj]

Would the Hamley bull be considered easy keeping. I spose they all are.

 

[Mill Iron A]

Beckton Colt 45 is still around, his negative rea epd probably hurts him pretty bad, he is on accelerated's website. C bar ranch has a really good son that is unproven. I don't know much about Hamley's as cows but the ones I have seen seem to be really fleshy. To the original poster: Nice heifer! Thanks for choosing red angus, we all have different opinions but it is clear we are all passionate about the breed and I hope you are able to grow with this passion as well!

 

[cowman 52]

You have a heifer that seems to have more than adequate hip to not get too wrapped up in the low birth weight bulls. The fat Tony calves here are way ahead of their pasture mates as to being the right kind with out being too much in any one area. We have expectations, jack hammers and a few more.
The Sakic might be a bit goofy from some people. 

I would suggest find a bull with some bone and hip and go on.  A lot of the bulls are frail made and more number bulls with out a whole lot to back it up after that.  We are using a gangster bull cattle visions has. Not a lot known but has some structure. 

Breed the heifer and just don't let her go over on due date.

 

[Show Dad]

You may not find what you need from a heifer bull but their are blood lines that can tell you if you're headed in the right direction.

I would suggest trying RCR's Walkerton bull to see if the Mulberry blood line gets you what you want. I would also suggest Bieber Makin Hay. One I'm looking at using next spring is Tree Lane Perfect Storm.

For the second calf I would suggest JKC Huckleberry. He will give you the femininity and nice neck you're looking for.

JMHO
SD
<alien>

Gary, an FYI, Walkerton is off of the open market

Well rats!

 

[BTDT]

So, one bull I am looking into is Northline Fat Tony. Thoughts? I really need to clean up her front end. Please keep in mind she is a show heifer for breeding beef, and her daughter will be also.

**Is there any way to "spin" the semen to assure it will be a heifer?**

From her photos, cleaning up her front end might be as big of issue as you think. She might be heavy shouldered, but not sloppy in the brisket/throat area.

I have used Fat Tony, and know of several others as well. He seems to be inconsistent even when bred to very similar type and bloodline females.  They come small, and do grow but again, might hit, might miss.
From experience Hamley is calving ease, but he will down size a great deal. The calves are stylish and easy fleshing so might be one to consider.  Please also remember, while you are aiming for a show heifer, that show heifer will hopefully be an addition to your herd, so make sure she is functional and has some maternal numbers behind her.  A beautiful show heifer that doesn't milk is of no use, as is a show heifer that does not get bred.

CAB - you are correct, Genex does have a nice line up of red angus bulls. One bull is Conquest, but I am not sure he would sire "showy" calves, although I would take performance and function over flashy any day!!

As with any trait, too much of a good thing is not a good thing. No breeder or cattleman has ever been successful by selecting for one single trait, be it REA, bw, YW, or marbling. 

There has been research on AI'ing females either "early" or "late" to manipulate calf sex. I am sure you can google it, as I can never keep it straight as to AI early for females or males (I think females).


For those that are not experienced in the "HC" theory; HC stand for head circumference.  They measure every calf born and correlate that with calving ease. They  have found that head circumference influences difficulty in birth. (Which I think most of us would understand!) But I think their goal is to confirm or associate calf SHAPE with calving ease instead of relying strictly on birth weight.  I would like to see them go one step further and measure head circumference AND shoulder and hip circumference to find a correlation between head, shoulder, and hip size in conjunction with birth difficulty.

 

[aj]

Beckton Epic R397. Are his calves have way acceptable conformation wise? He's loaded for bear on epd's. Are calves moderate, big framed, or what?

 

[Mill Iron A]

Aj, the epic calves are really good, maybe a touch too moderate for some and a little flatter but big ribbed sound good females. Of all the bulls you have mentioned on here to outcrossing to your line red Durham red lancer bloodlines he would be it